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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-08-11 04:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #584 ]


⌈ Secret Post #584 ⌋

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Re: N!S#2

(Anonymous) 2008-08-12 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
And I explained my stance (and known connotations) on it, and have not had my point addressed yet (even though it was the comment you replied to.)

Re: N!S#2

[identity profile] paperclipchains.livejournal.com 2008-08-12 02:50 am (UTC)(link)
Your point was already addressed. The change is situational. Someone explained it upthread, I don't see the point in reiterating.

You asked how it's different from the decline of racism in society, but that presumes (in the context of this conversation) that 4chan is contributing to the decline of racism rather than helping to perpetuate it, and also assumes that racism is declining to the point where those words can shed their meaning. That's not just the case.

Re: N!S#2

(Anonymous) 2008-08-12 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
I only refer to the use of these words in terms of 4chan as words, not as concepts. I don't think they have any effect on those who already hold racist or anti-homosexual beliefs, and I don't believe that those who don't hold those beliefs are helping to perpetuate them by using those words in the context 4chan offers. I think that all people who try to stand up against them are doing is stopping that context from spreading, rather than the word use. Instead of the use spreading and causing the previous connotations to become obsolete, you're instead making it seem like anyone who does use these words without qualm is perpetuating the original harmful beliefs, when that is just not the case. In short, I think you're wasting your time shouting at the wrong goddamn people.

And yes, I think racism has declined to the point where those words can begin to shed their meaning, shown clearly through the beginning of reclamation of those words by the groups they reflect on. I don't think the way 4chan uses them is anywhere near spreading to 'real life', but saying that they still hold exactly the same connotations everywhere that they did 60/70 years ago is simply incorrect.