[ SECRET POST #4249 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4249 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Jessica Biel in Stealth]


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[Criminal Minds S01E06, "L.D.S.K"]


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[Evangeline Lilly, Wasp]














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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

making a profit off of someone else's IP is illegal. Full stop. Period. The End.

This has always been true. And unless there are major changes to copyright laws it's going to always be true.

Please remember even as of 10 years ago that fandom writers were still putting disclaimers on fanfiction and hoping that the original IP holders would ignore them. There are consequences to both selling fanfic and piracy. Authors aren't rich. Selling fanfic/pirating books eats into their livelihoods. Publishers pay attention to this stuff and will and can end contracts, make smaller book runs and not do foreign translation rights. For Indie authors, this takes money directly out of our hands.

Fanfic is fun. It's a great medium for ideas. Don't sell it. Or you'll lose it. No more ff.net, no more A03. Done.

-Indie Author who follows Pro Authors who talk about this shit

[(Anonymous)]

Hopefully this doesn't come across as combative, but why is fanfic singled out as 'illegal profiting off of someone else's IP' but the biggest booths at cons are fanart, doujinshi artists, etc?

da

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know but I wish I knew why those get a free pass rather than a C&D. I really, really don't know how they get to operate. Hell, I don't even understand how teefury and the like who make original-but-clearly-based-on-a-trademark t-shirt designs aren't getting sued. Sure, some of their stuff can easily be argued fair use/parody but not everything.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

I had fan-content t-shirts up on cafépress in 2007 and got C&D'd. Seeing all the not-so-coy fanart merch all over Society6 etc these days has me side-eyeing.

There was a kerfluffle at one of the big French manga/anime cons this year - basically, lawyers from Toei and others going around with cops seizing and destroying cartloads of fanart. Now, destroying the original pieces I don't agree with but yeah, that was a legit operation, these were people making a lot of money off fanart-only content that had enforcable copyright protection....

[(Anonymous)]

DA

I don't know about fanarts, but doujinshi fall into a gray area in Japan. They get tolerated for a number of reasons: most mangaka started out as doujinshi artists as well, so they sympathise; doujinshi can work as a small advertisement for the original work; the amount of printed doujinshi books is low and limited (probably the most important reason). But technically they are illegal. If a mangaka thinks a doujinshi puts their work in a bad light, they can sue the doujinshi artist.

[(Anonymous)]

That's not true, and the laws around transformative works vary between legal jurisdictions. Some areas, it's legal to produce one-off commissions for money but not mass-producing things. And some jurisdictions you can make derivative works so long as they keep the 'spirit' of the original creator. It's not at all cut and dry.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't agree with selling fanfic but I don't think it would eat into an author's profits anymore than I think fanfic existing stops people buying the original works. I agree with this comment which sums up what I mean
https://fandomsecrets.dreamwidth.org/1866684.html?thread=1000477116#cmt1000477116