[ SECRET POST #4252 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4252 ⌋

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Comments

Re: What fandom hills will you die on?

[tabaqui]

Based on the fact that he can lift a motorcycle with three women on it? He's throwing that shield with a *lot* of force behind it. That cracks into someone's head, or ribs, or gut - they're pretty much dead, especially the soldiers in WWII who probably had zero access to adequate medical care.

Re: What fandom hills will you die on?

[(Anonymous)]

So real-life. Got it.

Re: What fandom hills will you die on?

[(Anonymous)]

I completely accept that, by the laws of physics in real life, it would easily and unquestionably kill a human being.

But it's not in real life, and I think that - based on the tone of the depiction of the character in the movie, and the history of the character's depiction in comics, and superhero genre conventions - we are absolutely not supposed to believe or assume that he's killing people every time he throws his shield at someone. Even though it's not realistic.

Re: What fandom hills will you die on?

[tabaqui]

I think he most certainly did in the war, and most likely did on the Lumerian Star (sp?) ship, and when they were chasing down Crossbones.... I think that when he's faced with people who are going to kill him, he will kill back. He's a soldier, he's not a goody-goody. Of *course* it would be better if they were arrested or whatever,but - that's not realistic, either, in situations that a superhero would get into, when faced with other super-human type people.

IMO.

Re: What fandom hills will you die on?

[(Anonymous)]

I agree that Steve has probably killed people. But usually we draw a moral and legal distinction between killing people as a soldier in war, and murdering them privately or assassinating them the way that Bucky did (when he was brainwashed). There's all kinds of moral lines and hedges that we draw like this - we think that there's a moral difference between causing people to die versus directly murdering them, things like that.

I don't think that he's killing people every time he throws his shield, or in the course of his work as a superhero. I mean, you're correct that it's not realistic that superheroes wouldn't kill people - but it's famously a conceit of the modern superhero genre that they don't. It's widely pointed out and acknowledged as something that's true even though it's unrealistic. And, again, the depiction of the character and his actions in the films backs this up.

Re: What fandom hills will you die on?

[tabaqui]

*shrug*
Agree to disagree.