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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-08-27 06:29 pm

[ SECRET POST #4254 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4254 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Les Miserables in Tecklenburg, 2018]


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[Aaron Paul]


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[Brigitte Goudz (cosplayer)]


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[Peaky Blinders (Michael Gray & Bonnie Gold)]


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[Jack Hanna]


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[Better Call Saul]


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[Blogger/Instagrammer Johnna Holmgren (Fox Meets Bear)]









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[personal profile] philstar22 2018-08-27 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I still say they could have found an actress with muscle or the ability to build muscle. I mean, don't get me wrong, I love the movie. It was really great. But Gal still is not what I picture when I picture Wonder Woman.

(Anonymous) 2018-08-27 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
But that's the thing, women can be strong/muscular without being visibly bulky because they don't build muscle the same way men do. I have a friend who lifts regularly and is probably 5 foot nothing and looks like a twig. She can lift a piece of 50-lb furniture at work with ease but you would never know it because she's a wiry little thing.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2018-08-27 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, but Gal looks nothing like the comic book character. The comic book character has a more muscular frame that Gal doesn't have and can't have. And male superheroes in movies are almost always muscular like their comic book origin. So it is totally a double standard to cast someone like Chris Hemsworth for Thor and then cast someone like Gal for Wonder Woman.

(Anonymous) 2018-08-27 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
WTF? Male comic book anatomy is infamously exaggerated.

Chris Hemsworth looks nothing like this:
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/thor/images/5/53/Thor_Vol_2_1.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110405181820
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[personal profile] philstar22 2018-08-27 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, but at least they were trying to go for the same look. Their first priority with casting for Wonder Woman was clearly a conventionally attractive, model thing woman. They didn't even consider the look of the comic character at all.

(Anonymous) 2018-08-28 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
Seriously. Chris Hemsworth looks about as buff as your average surfer, not a superhero.

(Anonymous) 2018-08-27 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
To be fair, Gal Gadot doesn't look wiry, she looks skinny. Model skinny. She was a good Wonder Woman, but I can see why some people don't think she entirely looked the part.

(Anonymous) 2018-08-28 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
I feel like this is derailing to the point of not being true. Of course skinny people can be strong. That doesn't mean women are magical beings where muscle doesn't equal physical strength. Women don't bulk up as easily as guys, sure, but muscle is muscle is muscle. It is absolutely not true that a serious female lifter is going to look like a twig.

(Anonymous) 2018-08-28 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
Gal Godot definitely has muscle, though. If you look at her arms and thighs you can see some pretty clear muscle definition there.

(Anonymous) 2018-08-28 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt and I agree, I actually remember watching the movie and being grateful they didn't make her a stick. It'd be cool if she had been more buff, but I sure didn't think she was tiny.

(Anonymous) 2018-08-28 04:31 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I thought the muscles she had were consistent with what you'd get from wielding a sword/whip. I'm looking at that cosplayer and while she looks nice, that's the kind of bulk you get specifically from lifting, so it really wouldn't make sense for Wonder Woman to have arms that look like that because I doubt that she lifts weights. She fights, and that's going to give you a different sort of muscle tone than lifting. Just look at female martial artists, most of them don't have huge arms.

(Anonymous) 2018-08-28 03:07 am (UTC)(link)
That is not the point. Of course phisically strong women don't always look the part in terms of muscle mass but the point here is that women with more visible muscles exist, they just didn't get cast for the role because they're deemed not as attractive. And that's the bullshit people are annoyed about: they had all the opportunities to actually cast a woman who looks the part and instead they cast a woman who's still model skinny.

(Anonymous) 2018-08-27 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
In regards to actors who can build muscle, perhaps the hollywood powers that be decided to play it safe with Wonder Woman in picking someone that was relatively (keyword: relatively) stronger than most famous actresses but who still scored highly on conventional hollywood beauty. Now that there's a lot of vocal support for even more buffer female characters and actors to play them, maybe soon the buff future will come true. Baby steps, baby steps.

(Anonymous) 2018-08-27 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I think everyone understand why Hollywood would do

People just think it's bullshit
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[personal profile] philstar22 2018-08-27 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
This. This is 2018. Most people realize that not all women are skinny model-types, and most people can handle it. Hollywood is behind the times.
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[personal profile] osidiano 2018-08-29 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's unfair to Gal to imply she can't build muscle, when she probably wasn't allowed to, by the directors/movie execs. Lupita Nyongo talked about that problem in an interview on, I think, the Daily Show with Trevor Noah? When she was doing all the fight training for Black Panther, she started to bulk up in the arms and was in danger of not fitting into her costume sleeves, so they cut back on her training hours and gym time to keep her thin. :\ And that's only 6-8 weeks of movie boot camp, not a life time of sparring and training and perfecting crazy combat horse acrobatics because you're a bored Amazonian on an island that hasn't seen war in hundreds of years....