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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-08-30 06:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #4257 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4257 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2018-08-31 06:38 am (UTC)(link)
if you had said this about any of the new cartoon shows I would have given you the benefit of the doubt. But this is Voltron, a reboot of an 80s show, and its very obvious they're aiming for the nostalgia fans who, surprise, are adults by this point in their life, with their marketing. Which makes sense since, again surprise, its adults that have disposable income and make the choices for how the household spends their money, not the kids. They also went hard for the Avatar fandom with their marketing as well, using the showrunners having worked on it as a heavy selling point at the beginning. A lot of people that watched Avatar when it came out are now, more or less, adults as well. So no, this isn't a show only for children or even geared only toward children and their marketing has been very clear about that with who they're targeting. If it was, they wouldn't be making clothing in adult sizes, or merchandise that's over a hundred dollars a pop or have such a large presence at cons. They are selling to a children's market but they are also very intentionally selling to an adult market because the adult market is the one with the disposal income and the call on whether they renew netflix or not for instance. So yes, the showrunners, and the corporations, are in fact, paying attention to the 'adult' fandom - see JD's apology about using the 'bury your gays' schtick that he posted on his twitter. Kids weren't the ones making enough noise to make the corporations tell him to do that.

Granted, the 'adults' are acting like spoiled kids in a lot of ways. I will never argue that. And I doubt the showwriters or corporations care about the groups that are screaming because they're not getting their ship as canon. But not everyone that has problems with the show and takes those problems public and addresses the showrunners and corporations are shippers or talking about shipping. The show has some pretty negative messages its sending about gays, amputees, PTSD suffers, abuse victims, WOC - there's a whole laundry list of things that actually are being done in a harmful way in the show and the adults, who know how corporations work, should be speaking up and addressing those issues in a civil and polite manner. So no - the showrunners don't care about screaming shippers. Being abusive to people working on a show in any way is never right. But the corporations do care about how a product reflects on their brand name and their future sales of other shows and the negative messages in VLD that had gotten too obvious to ignore have to be addressed or future shows will think its just as acceptable to pull them as the showrunners of VLD did.

long story short: its a kids cartoon but its marketed to adults as well as children and honestly some of the show goes pretty dark for a 'kids' cartoon. The corporations are expecting adults to watch it and they're paying attention to the feedback.

(Anonymous) 2018-08-31 09:08 am (UTC)(link)
As a gay person: what the fuck. You have a gay leading character who isn't just The Gay One. Do you know how long I've fucking dreamed of seeing that? He's gay, and he's not Torture Porn or Sadness Fodder, and he's not a damn stereotype or the Token Gay who's just there to round out the cast, nevermind that most of the cast are PoC or biracial. In fact I think the only 100% white person is Pidge. What the fuck are you on about "they do nothing but harm!"

Legit I've only seen angry ass shippers being the ones this aggressive, or blind as fuck people who want to speak for people like me because they want their damn Purity Points--gay, disabled abuse victims.