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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-08-12 04:52 pm

[ SECRET POST #585 ]


⌈ Secret Post #585 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Re: 138

[identity profile] xanykaos.livejournal.com 2008-08-12 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, my disdain has nothing to do with his beliefs. He's an aethist, fine. It's the bitter "I hate Christianity (usually much more than any other organised religion) and must tell everyone who believes in it that they're stupid and wrong!" bit that I hate.
Also, just how depressing the books apparently get at the end.

Basically, Lewis wrote an allegory about why God is good. Pullman wrote an allegory about why Christianity sucks. See the difference? (I'll give you a hint--it's the last word in each sentence).

Re: 138

(Anonymous) 2008-08-12 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
So you have a problem with criticism? And depressing stories?

Re: 138

[identity profile] xanykaos.livejournal.com 2008-08-12 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
No. But at the moment I do have a problem with people being deliberately ignorant to try and employ some kind of psuedo-Socratic method.

I have a problem with bitter aethists. Not even aethists in general. Just the bitter ones who behave like jackasses because they're just so mad that some people believe in something they don't. I have a problem with Bible-thumping Christians who think their way is the only right way to see things as well.

Y'know what, it's like those Subways/Quiznos adverts. I've stopped eating at Quiznos because of it. Subway goes: "Try our food! It's yummy! To say thanks for trying our food, we're reducing the price on this item!" Quiznos goes: "Try our food because Subway's food sucks! They can't do sandwiches right! They don't toast them--and we know everyone wants their sandwich toasted! Subway did this thing, but you'd be an idiot to spend your five bucks there when you could spend it at our place!"

That's the difference between Narnia and HDM, to me.


I'm not wildly a fan of depressing stories either. I still like my tragedies and all, but I want there to be a friggen point at the end.

Re: 138

(Anonymous) 2008-08-13 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
No. But at the moment I do have a problem with people being deliberately ignorant to try and employ some kind of psuedo-Socratic method.

Is this an insult?

I agree with you. I really do. Both types of people annoy me. And I'm not trying to be rude, I meant no harm. But I really don't see HSM as some kind of blantant bashing of Christianity. I saw it as a warning against oppressive and tyrant institutions.

As for me, I don't know anything about Pullman, and even if he was a raging jackass who hates Christianity and the like, why would I even care? I'd still read the story for the story, regardless. I am wholeheartedly convinced that Trent Reznor is a huge asshole. But I love Nine Inch Nails. I love his music. I can seperate the two. See how that works?

And I'm pretty sure there was a point to HDM. Just because it was a point that you might not like or agree with, doesn't mean there was no point at all.

Uh, peace?

Re: 138

(Anonymous) 2008-08-13 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
LOL I meant HDM. xD