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⌈ Secret Post #585 ⌋

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Mark Hamill is my definitive Joker, tbh. Jack Nicholson was my first, but Mark Hamill is my favorite.

And I understand that part of the allure of fiction is escapism (you're free to enjoy situations and feel sympathy for people that would terrify you or conflict with your morals in real life), and being a fan of the Nolanverse only is A-OK, but the Joker is first and foremost a literary character. If you claim to be a fan of the Joker and talk about him as though you've been a fan for years, but you can't back it up... sorry, you iz dumb.

And like I said, I understand too well what it is to be a fan of a movieverse. I loved Iron Man because I love RDJ and he brought complexity to Tony Stark when before, I found Tony to be a very dull character. But even though I love the movie, I have no intention to read the comics, as I'm not a fan of Marvel comics in general. HOWEVER, I don't pretend to be an expert on Tony -just- from having seen the movie or read up on him on Wikipedia. I only know and care about -that- Tony Stark, and I would not plunk myself down in the Iron Man/Marvel comics fandom and act as though I knew everything about everything, which is what I find offensive about the new Batman and Joker fans.

TL;DR comment summary - EITHER STAY IN THE MOVIEVERSE FANDOM OR EDUCATE YOURSELF PLZ.

Ah. I think I'm really on the outside of fandom. I feel like maybe there's a secret Batman Fandom clubhouse that I haven't found yet. ...but I'd probably be scared to, since my only knowledge really comes from the Animated series and what graphic novels I've gotten from the library and all. (Because it's just a pain to try and figure out where to pick up in the monthly releases...)

Don't blame you on Tony Stark. I got some Iron Man comics as a kid...dead boring. I still haven't seen the movie (I want to...), but I find him best as the martini-swilling drunk in the Floating Hands cartoons.

Oh Hamill!Joker. I watched "Mad Love" today and was reminded how very much I love him. I'd pay good money to hear him sing the "Looney" song from the Killing Joke...or better yet, just have him read the whole thing.

I don't think there's anything wrong with your knowledge being limited to the Animated universe - a lot of people regard that as the definitive Batman canon! If you do wanna read more graphic novels, though, I linked someone else who replied to me to a page with a ton of .cbr files.

Oh the Iron Man movie is AMAZING! I think Tony is an unlikable character (the arrogance, the womanizing, the substance abuse), but RDJ manages to make him charming enough that you can forgive it. I believe the movie comes out on DVD toward the end of September, if you'd rather wait to rent it. :D

Mark Hamill is my definitive Joker

Mine too. I also like the few brief moments he's in Neil Gaiman's graphic novel Black Orchid because he actually *tells jokes*, like this gem: What do you get when you cross the Atlantic with the Titanic? Halfway! And of course no one in Arkham Asylum thinks he's funny.

I just realized something: I've read the classic comics, A Death in the Family, Frank Miller, Alan Moore, Neil Gaiman, The Further Adventures of the Joker, the animated series, several of the Batman movies (Mask of the Phantasm ftw), and yet I don't consider myself a fan. Weird.

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