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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-08-12 04:52 pm

[ SECRET POST #585 ]


⌈ Secret Post #585 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Re: 138

[identity profile] dots.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
To clarify.

There are a lot of stories out there about corrupt churches, gods that don't actually exist, faiths manipulating people for political gain. It's really one of the oldest stories ever told. I enjoy these stories based on how they're written, even if I disagree with the themes inherent, because they're just stories.

C.S. Lewis wrote what he believed. I don't know if Pullman wrote HDM directly in response to how much he hated the allegory, and frankly, I don't care. But he has, repeatedly, talked about how much he hates Lewis' Christian influence and how he sees it as brainwashing.

I have no problem with Pullman writing atheist books because he's an atheist. I have no problem with his books at all, really -- not my cup of tea, but that's neither here nor there.

What I find ridiculous is his vendetta-like grudge against Christian's children lit. Classic children's lit, no less, and his only reasoning is that Lewis was writing an allegory. I have my beefs with Narnia, too, and that's true for most people who have read them. I dislike what Lewis did with Susan. But to go so far as to attack Lewis' religion is hitting below the belt, quite honestly.

That's why I dislike Pullman. I don't like his writing, not for that reason, but because I find it dull. I don't like him as a person because of how often he brings this vendetta up. It has nothing to do with his own beliefs, or his own writing. It's all because he's attacking someone else for beliefs they have.

I hope that now I sound slightly more coherent.

Re: 138

[identity profile] xanykaos.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you. This. Just. All this.

I should never engage in philosophical/religious debates after 1AM. I'm nowhere near coherent enough to say what you just said perfectly without flubbing what I mean(which is probably why the anons blew this all madly out of proportion).