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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-09-14 06:26 pm

[ SECRET POST #4272 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4272 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Pose]



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[The Last Jedi]


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[Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom]


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04. [SPOILERS for Shinrai - Broken Beyond Despair]



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05. [WARNING for non-con]

[Braveheart]


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06. [WARNING for discussion of sexual assault]

[Asia Argento]


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07. [WARNING for discussion of suicide]

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(Anonymous) 2018-09-14 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I give not a single fuck about this but I thought a) she'd only been accused and there is such a thing as innocent til proven guilty and b) the guy was 17 right? Not a child. Maybe in the eyes of US law but in the UK it would be legal. Storm in a teacup.

(Anonymous) 2018-09-14 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I’m sure you’d feel the same way of the genders were reversed

(Anonymous) 2018-09-14 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
NAYRT, but while I'd probably side eye it as a relationship because I myself personally could not understand why two people (at those stages in their lives) could have in common, I probably wouldn't make a face at it if they were just in it for the sex regardless of the sexes involved.

(Anonymous) 2018-09-15 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
da but I would side-eye it just because a grown adult should know better. The kid, yeah, I can understand being moony-eyed over a famous, attractive older woman, but it's the responsibility of the adult in this situation to say no, this isn't okay.

(Anonymous) 2018-09-15 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
Why isn't it okay though? We tell 17 year olds they can't have sex, can't drink, can't go pee without asking permission, and then the instant they turn eighteen, they can drink (in the UK), can join the army (in the US/Canada), and have to decide what they want to do with their lives.

I've know immature as fuck 17 year olds and immature as fuck 42 year olds. If they're just getting together to boink, I don't see an issue, tbh. Now if the older person is doing this as a control thing, and trying to 'own' the younger, then fuck yeah, judge away.

(Anonymous) 2018-09-15 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
You can't have a legal standard based on how mature a person 'seems', though.

(Anonymous) 2018-09-15 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
I do agree with that, what bothers me is... and maybe I don't really know how to word this, but... age of consent seems to be all over the map, literally.

In the US alone, it varies depending on state from what I've seen. I know you can't really base a legality on the seeming maturity of a person, but for people to judge this relationship (if it was consensual and she wasn't doing any sorts of coercion, of which I don't know because I don't know this woman from a hole in the ground) when he's apparently legal in his country of origin, seems weird to me.

Do I find the age gap at his age a little weird, kind of yeah, but I can also understand the attraction of being with someone more knowledgable about sex and the world at that age too. I only find it weird because like I said, as someone who's only 35, I really can't imagine what kind of connection I'd have with someone who's still in school. But if it's just for the sex, I doubt that connection matters to them.

(Anonymous) 2018-09-15 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
It's not a matter of it being "okay," it's a matter of it being against the law. Like it or not, the law is the law. A responsible adult would say "hey, I appreciate that you're into me, but we're not going to do anything until you turn 18." The kid can legally fuck whomever he wants when he turns 18 and this wouldn't even have been an issue if they'd just kept their hands off each other until then.

(Anonymous) 2018-09-15 11:52 am (UTC)(link)
DA

Personally, I find this age gap skeevy as fuck, but it's not against the law in 99% of the world.

(Anonymous) 2018-09-15 05:01 pm (UTC)(link)
which is completely irrelevant if it's taking place in the us where it IS against the law.

(Anonymous) 2018-09-15 06:26 am (UTC)(link)
Only he said it made him uncomfortable and he wasn't all that into it and if we do go by "believing the victim" we should do this for all victims, not just a few of them. I'm not at all a fan of the "all boys would love to fuck an older woman, no exception" narrative that gets pushedevery time this happens.

(Anonymous) 2018-09-14 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
There have definitely been plenty of people willing to argue that position on here even with the genders flipped.

(Anonymous) 2018-09-15 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
+1

The whole mob mentality and witch hunt aspect of the Me Too movement is troubling, no matter the genders of the parties involved.

(Anonymous) 2018-09-15 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
I think that "witch hunt" is more extreme than is warranted by the facts. And it's much more off-putting to me to look at the people who want to defend even the people who have admitted to sexual abuse or misconduct. Where people are actively trying to rehabilitate Louis CK 9 months after he admitted to sexual harassment, without any kind of remorse or work in his part. Where Jian Gomeshi just today got published in the NY Review of Books. It's hard for me to look at that and say, oh it's an irresponsible witch hunt gone wild. As a society, most people still don't give a shit about the well being of women.

It's not a "witch hunt" and I wish people would quit calling it that.

(Anonymous) 2018-09-15 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
The problem is that witches in the "witch hunting" sense (and not the Wiccans or whatever) don't exist, and sexual predators and rapists definitely do. A witch hunt also implies that everybody is being hysterical. And while there has been some overzealousness, some jumping to conclusions, and some misunderstandings, that's not the same thing. I think it's okay for people to want serial sexual harassers or assaulters to face some sort of punishment, even if it's just being fired. I think it's okay for any one person to tell their story from whenever and for people to believe them. Yes, some people lie and that's something that should be kept in mind, but in a he said/she said situation where they say opposite things, at least one of them is lying, and I find it hard to get upset with people for now generally believing the side of the people who say they were sexually assaulted/harassed, when for so long it was the other way around.