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⌈ Secret Post #588 ⌋

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It really all depends on what everyone's looking to get out of the, uh, experience, I guess. Although I've read some con reports where people were there for Steve specifically, as opposed to being there for other people and settling. He doesn't seem to tour really so it's possible that at least some of the girls are his fans by choice rather than via Jensen fangirling.

Or maybe he's just a slut. That works too.

I think he is just a slut.

Con tickets are expensive right? Which says to me that they must be rather hardcore fans of his to pay that much for just him. Which AGAIN makes me think he shouldn't be fucking them. But really, this is just my opinion.

Depends on the con and what one does there. If it's a local con and one volunteers, sometimes they can actually be pretty cheap. Not sure about any of the ones he's gone to though.

Plus, if someone has spent a bunch of money to see him--or even just to go to con--and ends up sleeping with him, seems to me that everyone involved gets something out of it. These are grown ups (hopefully), they can make their own decisions.

Yeah, it's is a fine opinion to have but just not one that I'm sure I share.

Even if they are his fans, I think with everyone who has (what I'll tentatively refer to as) 'groupies' there's a point where 'a few times' becomes 'too many times'.

I'd like to think he hasn't taken advantage of the situation but I'm still not convinced the secret wasn't about fans-of-Steve-via-Jensen, at SPN-centric con sessions.

See the biggest problem I see with the POV of this secret is that it's making a comparison between Steve and Jason which right away made cynical me think it's a Jason fan that's pissed that he has gotten a bad rap sometimes for selling CDs to SPN fans by using the fact that Jensen's singing backup on some of his songs. Which then makes me feel like they're making up rumors purely to try and make Steve out to be worse. I suppose one of the biggest reasons I feel like that is because this is the first time I've heard of any kind of rumor like this. As I said in another thread, it was no secret when Nicholas Brendon or James Marsters did it at cons and though Steve is a smaller fish so to speak than them, it's still hard to sneak something like this under fan con radar.

On top of that, while the secret does try to make the implication that these are Jensen-only fans that are sleeping with Steve, it really only says that he sleeps with fans at cons. Now if it is true, like I mentioned before, while it's unlikely these fans go only for Steve (though there are the cheaper day tickets that they could buy making that possible for some if they're living nearby), these fans could easily be both Jensen AND Steve fans since there have been plenty of those at these things too. Which would, if true, mean that those fans are sleeping with him because they like him specifically not necessarily because of Jensen.

Either way I think it's a dangerous game considering how batshit certain members of this fandom have proved themselves to be.

I've honestly never come across anybody who went to a con simply to see Steve Carlson - not that I doubt they exist - and he may well have a Steve-fan radar that allows him to recognise the true Steve-fans in the crowd...but I'm guessing not. So what are the chances that, if he is picking up women, it's specifically them each time it's happened?

Fandom sees Steve as a big part of Jensen's life (a bigger part than he probably is in reality) and it just doesn't seem at all unlikely to me that someone would sleep with him in order to feel closer to Jensen - to which I've already stated "If it were me I'd have an issue with that, but I'm not a guy." or words to that effect.

I've repeatedly stated that all of this is my opinion and all of it is based on an anonymously posted secret which may or may not be true. It's still an interesting discussion to have and one that I obviously find myself on one side of no matter who it concerns.

And for the record, the Jason Manns thing was dumb, $10 for a single is a little ridiculous - but I was more shocked that his TV-star boyfriend didn't slip him some money for the studio bill so that Jason wouldn't have to backrupt all his fans.

Considering that Jason didn't tell Jensen originally why he'd rented the studio and had to get a couple of drinks in him before he agreed to do it, I'm not sure why Jensen should be expected to pay for it. No I'm not suggesting there was anything underhanded here, I think it was just one of those things between friends. Jensen knows he's not a professional singer. Everytime Jensen goes to a con, he's got idiots asking him to sing - clearly there was a market in that it's something lots of fans want, being able to actually hear Jensen sing clearly, not on a crappy video recording with bad sound.

I don't think Jason ripped anyone off. No one forced anyone to buy the single. Anyone who did so did it of their own free will, especially as most of the people who ended up buying it had already been able to download it. There are probably many more people who just got it for free from a download.

I don't believe Jason or Jensen did anything wrong and it's fans whining about stuff like that all the time, expecting something for nothing, which is why so often fans end up getting nothing at all.

*sigh* Right, so maybe I wasn't too obvious about the fact that I was joking. You think I was serious about them being boyfriends as well, right?

This is the problem with anonymously replying to somebody you don't know.

That's unfair to both Jensen and Jason. Jason didn't know how many of these he'd sell and he was worried about being able to make back the cost of renting the studio but as soon as he did, he made it available for free for download on his myspace. So anyone who genuinely couldn't afford it(if someone could buy it, then they could afford it, no one went bankrupt buying that single), after a few days they were able to get it for free download.

As for Jensen, I read on someone's LJ that they talked to Jason about how it came about and they said Jason told them he didn't tell Jensen what he was planning to do at first. Jensen ended up having alot of fun doing it but he seemed to take a some convincing, perhaps helped by a bit of liquid courage. The actual selling of the thing probably wasn't something he thought much about.

Once again, I thought it was pretty obvious that I was joking. I've refered to that in humour on my journal several times. I forget that I'm not simply joking with an LJ friend and maybe I'm a little dry in my sarcasm.

It's almost impossible to have a discussion with people you don't know, especially those choosing to remain anonymous.

For the record: http://kinkynicky.livejournal.com/75730.html

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