fandomsecrets | [ SECRET POST #588 ]

⌈ Secret Post #588 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

101.

__________________________________________________

102.

__________________________________________________

103. [repeat]

__________________________________________________

104.

__________________________________________________

105.

__________________________________________________

106.

__________________________________________________

107.

__________________________________________________

108.

__________________________________________________

109.

__________________________________________________

110.

__________________________________________________

111.

__________________________________________________

112.

__________________________________________________

113.

__________________________________________________

114.

__________________________________________________

115.

__________________________________________________

116.

__________________________________________________

117.

__________________________________________________

118.

__________________________________________________

119.

__________________________________________________

120.

__________________________________________________

121.

__________________________________________________

122.

__________________________________________________

123.

__________________________________________________

124.

__________________________________________________

125.

__________________________________________________

126.

__________________________________________________

127.

__________________________________________________

128.

__________________________________________________

129.

__________________________________________________

130.

__________________________________________________

131.

__________________________________________________

132.

__________________________________________________

133.

__________________________________________________

134.

__________________________________________________

135.

__________________________________________________

136.

__________________________________________________

137.

__________________________________________________

138.

__________________________________________________

139.

__________________________________________________

140.

__________________________________________________

141.

__________________________________________________

142.

__________________________________________________

143.

__________________________________________________

144.

__________________________________________________

145.

__________________________________________________

146.

__________________________________________________

147.

__________________________________________________

148.

__________________________________________________

149.

__________________________________________________

150.

__________________________________________________

151.

__________________________________________________

152.

__________________________________________________

153.

__________________________________________________

154.

__________________________________________________

155.

__________________________________________________

156.

__________________________________________________

157.

__________________________________________________

158.

__________________________________________________

159.

__________________________________________________

160.

__________________________________________________

161.

__________________________________________________

162.

__________________________________________________

163.

__________________________________________________

164.

__________________________________________________

165.

__________________________________________________

166.

__________________________________________________

167.

__________________________________________________

168.

__________________________________________________

169.

__________________________________________________

170.

__________________________________________________

171.

__________________________________________________

172.

__________________________________________________

173.

__________________________________________________

174.

__________________________________________________

175.

__________________________________________________

176.

__________________________________________________

177.

__________________________________________________

178.

__________________________________________________

179.

__________________________________________________

180.

__________________________________________________

181.

__________________________________________________

182.

__________________________________________________

183.

184.

Notes:

early because my internet connection's giving me up and letting me down

OH YEAH -- and

fandomsecrets_o! for non-english secrets

ALSO, subs post is nearing 700, which means it closes soon, get stuff in for next week!

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #084.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 4 5 6 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ], [ 1 2 - personal attack ], [ 1 - troll ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Flat | Top-Level Comments Only

126. It makes me sick to my stomach too. I have hard time believing that the same people who have no trouble stretching Sylar's storyline beyond S1 would be incapable of letting Maya keep her dignity and her life (or better yet, give her *GASP* a better storyline!), so if she's killed off, it will be because of a bias. I have no respect for creators who are either incapable of keeping their spine together under fandom pressure or choose fan service over actual effort in the story.

Also, those who think only possible future for Maya is death? Please educate yourselves about Women in Refrigerators-syndrome (http://www.unheardtaunts.com/wir/). (Stephanie Brown (http://girl-wonder.org/robin/) makes a good individual example. For more visual example, try this Supernatural-vid (http://www.imeem.com/luminosity/video/MubmmEnZ/luminosity_sisabet_spn_womens_work_art_video/).)

/obligatory foamy comment

I have hard time believing that the same people who have no trouble stretching Sylar's storyline beyond S1 would be incapable of letting Maya keep her dignity and her life

Or Nathan. He had a perfectly meaningful, wonderful death scene in 1x23, but was brought back and spent S2 sit in a corner and be grumpy and blame his mom for his mistakes. I boggle every time I see someone name Nathan's storyline as one of the better in S2.

Fan service surely played a large role in keeping him alive. I don't think it's the only factor, but it does worry me that one characters gets such support while others don't. People asked for Maya's death in the same ways they asked for Nathan to be brought back. I even saw a post that simultanously asked for Nathan's survival, Maya's death, and for the creators to finally have the guts to kill off a popular white, male character, instead of only coloured and female ones. No kidding. Heroes fandom is hilarious.

I even saw a post that simultanously asked for Nathan's survival, Maya's death, and for the creators to finally have the guts to kill off a popular white, male character, instead of only coloured and female ones. No kidding. Heroes fandom is hilarious.

Wow. The void of logic in that is beyond description. You're not well, Heroes fandom. Not well at all.

As for Nathan, I love Adrian Pasdar as an actor and I didn't want Nathan to die in either season finale, but it really doesn't make sense for him to stick around anymore. What exactly is he going to do in S3? Pat Peter on the back and tell what a great person he is? His characterization in S2 consisted of being sad about Peter's death and being glad that he was alive. That was better than Maya's entire existence? And I'm asking this as a fan of Nathan.

The whole Nathan-being-alive storyline made no sense. None at all. Transfusion of a regenerist's blood can bring someone close to death back to life? Okay, that's a cool universe "rule", but Nathan? Really? He had no function of his own. All he did was sit around thinking "My brother's dead. Wah. My daughter should go to the man who raised her with her problems. Wah." His entire purpose in the second season was to serve as an emotional contrast to "Cold Hard Bitch" Mama Petrelli, who shot Nathan when he and others tried to go public with news of the heroes/mutations.

With Maya, on the other hand, you have the "can kill people with her tears" thing. She's a fugitive in Mexico, and an illegally-immigrating fugitive in the US. She's a cha

*character who actively doesn't want her powers (and for good reason). Sylar was good for her confidence, even if he is a sociopath. No idea what that will do to her if she changes/changed her mind about keeping the powers. Her brother's dead, it's Sylar's fault, and I can't remember if she knows any of this.

Oh, and her storylines weren't tied up at all.

I'm sort of in the camp that thinks Nathan should go away, in a hospital on life support if not completely dead. His power's known, it's basic, and it's cloned by Peter. There's no reason for special FX to petition to keep him around. Also, it no longer fits Nathan's character, as all his apparent ambition is gone.

Maya knows Sylar killed her brother, and she seemed ready to kill him for it. I doubt she will forgive him anytime soon. I don't mind that nothing about her was tied up yet, because this means she has a personal goal next season, namely to kill the bastard.

I miss S1 Nathan.

I'm sort of in the camp that thinks Nathan should go away, in a hospital on life support if not completely dead. His power's known, it's basic, and it's cloned by Peter. There's no reason for special FX to petition to keep him around.

I disagree. There are characters way more obsolete than Nathan. Like Claire or Sylar, for example. They keep doing the same thing over and over, and even with all the screen time they had on S2 the writers couldn't make them interesting anymore.

Nathan was practically put in the backburner on s2 but he had a few good scenes in that season. If Tim Kring doesn't spend the whole S3 trying to make the audience like Maya/Mohinder's love story maybe we get to see him in a good storyline again.

There are characters way more obsolete than Nathan. Like Claire or Sylar, for example. They keep doing the same thing over and over

Agreed about Claire. If I have to watch one more minute of her teenage sob story, I may jab my own eyeballs out. But Sylar? First of all, he barely had any screentime at all in season two (he was only in five episodes), and I don't think it's accurate to say he was doing "the same thing over and over." Season one was all about him trying to gain as many powers as possible. Season two was about him being stripped of his powers and thus suddenly thrown back into his insignificant existence. Two totally different mindsets.

That said, I do agree with you that his storyline could have been a lot more interesting than it was. I tend to view the whole thing (rather bitterly) as an opportunity for character development that was essentially completely wasted.

[ SECRET POST #588 ]

no subject

no subject

no subject

Thoughts on NP and Maya (S2 spoiler alert)

Re: Thoughts on NP and Maya (S2 spoiler alert)

Re: Thoughts on NP and Maya (S2 spoiler alert)

Re: Thoughts on NP and Maya (S2 spoiler alert)

Re: Thoughts on NP and Maya (S2 spoiler alert)