[ SECRET POST #4274 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4274 ⌋

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[anarchicq]

Ok, so basically the feminist stuff is ill fitting, like, there were many female writers so women reading wasn't a thing.

The Beast never rises up to Belle's level, he was always just there. He's also a literary snob, so they don't bond over that, he just poopoo's her taste in books, then goes "Fuck it, here's better books in my library." instead of "I want to something nice for her, here's a gift"

The servants feel guilty that they didn't raise that boy right and so they deserve to be punished, too.

There's a magical book that takes them to anywhere IN SPACE OR TIME!

[(Anonymous)]

I guess? But to me it wasn't a bad movie, because the feminist 'stuff' was like, one line/scene that didn't seem jarring in the context of it being a remake wherein the original Gaston does make fun of her for reading.

It was a little different to me from the original, but to be honest I liked it more because it DID seem weird to me that an 11 year old boy who was probably raised to be a snob gets cursed for... being a snob. This wasn't an adult that should have known better like in the remake.

And I liked the book, tbh. It was a cute addition to me and also kind of cruel to the beast that he could go to these places and stuff, but he'd still never fit in so it didn't matter that he could, he could never get away from his present/situation.

[(Anonymous)]

It was a big thing in small, rural areas, tho...... Like. That's why Belle loved the city--it wasn't frowned on. (Hi, I have researched this extensively for roleplay and my own writing! Women writers were often from city or higher-class families, not girls on farms or in small towns where everyone had to work to make things run.)

[(Anonymous)]

But is that a gender thing, or a social class and wealth thing? How many male writers from poor, rural families were there? I don't think it was a lot.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, but women weren't supposed to be reading. That was a Man's Thing in rural towns, women were too busy doing their work around town and caring for the kids. If she was reading, then clearly she wasn't doing enough whereas a man had to read because of multiple reasons, including he would be the one in charge of family finances.

[(Anonymous)]

Wasn't France in particular good about literacy in that time? Like, even for peasants and women?

[(Anonymous)]

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The data is kind of mixed on this. France was middle of the pack, I'd say. Literacy during the Pre-Revolution years was strong in Northwest of Europe, which included Northern France, but the South had dismal literacy rates. The Church did encourage education for everyone, but if you were a sharecropper's daughter you were pretty much destined to be illiterate. The daughter of a provincial tinkerer? It would depend on his wealth and how much he valued the education of his daughter. She would most likely know enough to help her future husband (who would likely be a tradesman), but maybe not enough to enjoy a sonnet.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not sold on the notion that men in rural towns were doing enough reading such that Belle reading would be shocking because she's a woman rather than shocking because she is a person of any gender reading in a rural town.