[ SECRET POST #4274 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4274 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

I'll agree on the dress and her singing. I don't think she's a TERRIBLE singer (certainly better than me, but that's a super low bar, lol) but because the ensemble cast was SO MUCH better than her, her lack of talent in that respect stood out to me even more.

I can't do more than shrug at the dancing thing because he's hardly a main character. They only showed other characters dancing together for a brief moment too.

[(Anonymous)]

The point about the dancing thing isn’t just that he didn’t get much time, it’s that Disney leaned heavy on it in the marketing beforehand when it was such a brief, missable moment in the movie. It’s the kind of bait-and-switch inclusion you get _all the time_ when it comes to LGBT representation; it’s a way for studios to have their cake and eat it too, by marketing incredibly minor moments like that to the LGBT community while simultaneously not needing to worry as much about it turning off more regressive people through the work itself, since there’s a good chance it won’t even register to them. It’s basically faux inclusion, like a half-step above queerbaiting.

If it hadn’t had such a marketing push, it probably wouldn’t have been an issue. The issue is that Disney all but bragged about a moment that’s barely even noticeable.

[(Anonymous)]

Ah, that's fair enough then. I honestly don't pay attention to marketing before I watch stuff, but if it was marketed as "HEY LOOK HOW INCLUSIVE WE ARE!" and then they only dropped that 0.5 seconds of representation, I could see why people would be upset.

[(Anonymous)]

They made a huge song and dance about "omg look we have a canonically gay character in this movie!" which then not only turned out to be the general dumb and ridiculous comic relief character, it was also a "blinknand you'll miss it" thing.

[(Anonymous)]

The Gaston song was blink and you miss it?

[philstar22]

They didn't actually make it a huge thing, though. It was the homophobic haters who made it a big thing.

[(Anonymous)]

naryt

I don't know, the Disney-loving circles I'm in were simultaneously very excited and apprehensive when the word started to go around the media about a confirmed gay character in BatB.

[(Anonymous)]

i'm so late and going through posts past.

you are amazingly annoying with how desperately you want to vilify people. like really fucking annoying. you're incorrect, and there are a ton of news articles boasting on behalf of disney about how he was the first out and proud gay character.

so, you're either really happy to talk out your ass, or you are so willfully inclined to infantalize minorities and their allies by pushing blame in other directions at every twist and turn, and you end up being really fucking offensive.

[(Anonymous)]

They didn't use it in the marketing. The director mentioned it in an interview because he was excited, and it blew up from there. Disney wasn't going around talking about it.

And LeFou being in love with Gaston was a pretty big part of his storyline.

[(Anonymous)]

>>And LeFou being in love with Gaston was a pretty big part of his storyline.

Was it, though? I mean, it helps give a little oomph to his motivations for semi-blindly hero-worshipping Gaston, but his actual actions throughout the film aren't so different from the animated version (in my recollection, anyway -- I remember watching for impact and being disappointed).

[(Anonymous)]

In the remake LeFou has his whole storyline where becomes disillusioned with Gaston as Gaston becomes more monstrous, in the original LeFou stays loyal and doesn't have a character arc of his own

[(Anonymous)]

Well, yeah, but that's kind of in the realm of just character development? Both in the sense they developed his character more in the transition to live action, and his character developed over the course of the live action film.

None of which was directly a result of him being in love with Gaston. Drop the blink-and-you-miss-it dance at the end, and you just have a story of the sidekick becoming disillusioned with his jerk friend and breaking out of his orbit.

[(Anonymous)]

It was pretty blatant in the Gaston song, too.

[philstar22]

This. The only reason it became a big thing was because of homophobic jerks who made it a thing.

[(Anonymous)]

Let's please not ignore that the people who were pretty fucking annoyed (and rightfully so, imo) at the ridiculous joke character being the lauded "first gay Disney character in a major franchise" also added quite a bit to the noise.

[(Anonymous)]

If they thought he was a ridiculous joke character, they were conflating the animated version with the live action version.