[ SECRET POST #4274 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4274 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

Other anons agreed that Moses, coming to his brother (who thought of himself as a god), and saying 'my god says obey me', in *front of his subjects*, who also thought of Ramses as a god, was a poor choice. That it basically made it a forgone conclusion that Ramses couldn't agree to anything Moses wanted, because it would make him look weak, and make his dynasty and his rule look unstable and unworthy.

There's a difference between, like, being imprudent and being wrong. Moses could have been more prudent, but he was not in the wrong because of it, and Ramses oughtn't to get the benefit of using that imprudence as an excuse.

The fact that slavery is morally wrong was not realized by the ancient Egyptians, but it is recognized by us (and by the movie in question), and I don't think that we ought to regard dynastic prestige as a good or satisfactory reason to keep people in slavery, or give any validity at all to that point of view. That's the way that Ramses (the character) might have seen it, but Ramses is always going to be in the wrong at that point, and it's hard for me to see how you're really going to find him sympathetic.

(if there are other reasons for finding Ramses sympathetic, sure, fair enough)(I mostly disagree about "impossible situation")

[(Anonymous)]

This is me, Tabaqui, not logged in.

No one, including myself, said that slavery was okay. No one, including me, said that morally, Ramses was in the right.

And I never said that I found Ramses to be sympathetic, I simply agreed with the other comments that Ramses was bound to refuse Moses because of the way that Moses approached him/the situation of Ramses reign and etc.

Reasons can be valid without being morally correct.

[(Anonymous)]

No one, including myself, said that slavery was okay. No one, including me, said that morally, Ramses was in the right.

I'm not saying that and I'm sorry if it came off that way!

And I never said that I found Ramses to be sympathetic, I simply agreed with the other comments that Ramses was bound to refuse Moses because of the way that Moses approached him/the situation of Ramses reign and etc. Reasons can be valid without being morally correct.

I would agree that it wasn't an approach that was likely to succeed, as far as that goes. I just don't think it's correct to call it a valid reason.