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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-09-16 03:24 pm

[ SECRET POST #4274 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4274 ⌋

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[personal profile] soldatsasha 2018-09-17 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
This thread is pretty interesting to me, bc Prince of Egypt is one of my favorite animated movies, and looking back was probably a major driving force behind me questioning Abrahamic doctrine and becoming an atheist. (That and Jesus Christ Superstar, bc poor old Judas.) It's a lot easier to see just how fucked up god is when it's broken down into simple cartoon format.

Like, if he actually cared about the Hebrews why did he harden Rameses' heart? Why bother with the plagues at all? Even if we're assuming they're meant to be some sort of "justice" against the Egyptians, not every person slaughtered or maimed was guilty and the trauma that had to have been inflicted on the Hebrews would have been intense. Imagine being a housekeeping slave for some wealthy family, and when you finally are freed it's to the sight of fireballs raining down on the plague-stricken corpses of their children. Imagine hiking over the bodies and debris out of town to meet up with the other Hebrews in the exodus, all to the sounds of the screams and wails of the majority of people in the country. Even if you were happy to be freed, I would imagine most slaves would think the plagues were a little excessive. Like, their god is supposedly all powerful and he couldn't come up with a better way to free the Hebrews than mass genocide in various horrifying ways?

The fact that god hardens Rameses's heart is just icing on the cake.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2018-09-17 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
THIS. All this 'i'm shall test you' crap. All this 'you have to *work* to earn my divine intervention and wow, I'm gonna make it *suck*!!'

I despise the Job story, always have, and that's just one of the gross things 'god' did.

I get collective memory, origin myths, explaining lightning and plague and trying to 'out god' your neighbor so you seem more fierce, better represented, top of the heap.

But for people to still, after all this time, cling to those stories as if they actually happened and are *just dandy* really creeps me out.

Especially when they blah blah about Jesus in one breath, and in the other use something 'he' never said to keep women down or to justify their hate. Screw that.

(I get a little salty when it comes to organized religion. I thought the movie was awesome: gorgeous music, loved the style of it, just really cool. And the Charleston Heston movie, the moment when the 'angel of death' came down? Scared the fuck out of me as as kid. But to make that leap and believe it was all true? Never happened for me, and most of the stuff i was taught or read just made me more determined to keep away.)