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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-09-23 03:24 pm

[ SECRET POST #4281 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4281 ⌋

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Re: How would you unfuck copyright?

(Anonymous) 2018-09-23 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
The argument is that it's something of value that you can leave to benefit your heirs.
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Re: How would you unfuck copyright?

[personal profile] philstar22 2018-09-23 09:44 pm (UTC)(link)
They can have what you've earned already. Once the author's dead, I think the public right to access is more important than any rights of heirs to make money off of something they had no part in creating. Now, if they did any editing? I"m all for the copyright lasting until their death. Christopher Tolkien has a right to the stuff he edited even if his father wrote it. He had a part in it.

Re: How would you unfuck copyright?

(Anonymous) 2018-09-23 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
They can have what you've earned already.

The problem is that, with the economics of creative work being what they are, that usually amounts to squadoosh.

I don't think it's unreasonable to include that as part of the just compensation for creativity, and I don't think that a comparatively short period of time after the death of the creator is an egregious obstacle to the public's right of access. You could probably talk me down a ways from 50 years, I guess.
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Re: How would you unfuck copyright?

[personal profile] philstar22 2018-09-23 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I guess I'd probably be okay with 25 or 30 years. But I think public access is really important, and heirs of authors have been known to restrict access to the works of the author and make it difficult for the public to actually read them.

I also think it would depend on the genre, honestly. I'd be more comfortable with a longer copyright for fiction. I'm a firm believer, though, in public access to knowledge because an informed public makes better decisions and holds leaders accountable.

Re: How would you unfuck copyright?

(Anonymous) 2018-09-23 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
That's a good point, something should probably be done about the hellhole that is academic publishing, but I don't know the details of that whole situation so well.
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Re: How would you unfuck copyright?

[personal profile] philstar22 2018-09-23 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know much either. But textbooks are ridiculously expensive. Every one of my law school textbooks was about 300. I can't imagine anyone poor being able to afford that. Leaving aside the cost of schools itself, something must be done about academic book costs. It just isn't right.

Re: How would you unfuck copyright?

(Anonymous) 2018-09-23 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Why? (I mean, I have no heirs, but that's not the point here). People get all up in arms about born-rich-babies who are raised with so much that they don't know how to function as an average person, so wouldn't we want to discourage leaving them a source of income that they didn't have to work for?

Re: How would you unfuck copyright?

(Anonymous) 2018-09-23 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean, it's all relative? Like, I'm in favor of an inheritance tax, yes, but I'm not in favor of a 100% inheritance tax.

(Anonymous) 2018-09-23 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
i feel like this would fuck over the wrong people? a ridiculously rich author would leave that money to their kids anyway. sure, there might not be extra income, but they'd still effectively be over the top rich. meanwhile, a far lesser known author wouldn't even be able to leave their kids with a bit of extra income that might improve their lives without making them millionaires.

Re: How would you unfuck copyright?

(Anonymous) 2018-09-24 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
99.99% of artists aren't leaving their families a vast store of wealth when they die. Creative works aren't particularly lucrative unless you're very, very lucky and/or very, very well connected. In a lot of cases, that income the heirs receive would barely cover the cost of the funeral.