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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-09-24 06:37 pm

[ SECRET POST #4282 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4282 ⌋

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[Colette]


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[Sara Sidle on CSI]


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[Criminal Minds]


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[Step by Step, Cody/Dana]


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[Buffy the Vampire Slayer]


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(Anonymous) 2018-09-25 05:57 pm (UTC)(link)
TERFs are coopting the word bisexual? Has the meaning of the acronym TERF changed since the 1990s in radical ways that I somehow missed? Because those folks pretty much thought all bi women were the antichrist in a KKK suit for most of the last 30 years. When did this change.

Also, as someone who is totally over being told she's clearly pan, since she's a bi woman who dated a transman, screw that. The TERFs can pry my bisexual identity from my cold, dead, women and trans-folk fucking fingers.

(Anonymous) 2018-09-25 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Idk if it’s a TERF thing specifically but “bi means two sexes only!!!!” Is something transphobes have latched on to fairly recently. The people who claim you have to be pan to date trans people are a little subtler but still transphobic

(Anonymous) 2018-09-25 09:23 pm (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

But... The people who claim you have to be pan to date trans people are a little subtler but still transphobic

When I was younger and didn't know what pan meant and asked, this is how it was explained to me. That bi meant strictly male/female, and pan meant you didn't care. It never occurred to me at the time that that could be taken as transphobic, I just assumed that (rightly) so, some people have looser or more rigid attractions than others.

(Anonymous) 2018-09-26 05:14 am (UTC)(link)
The transphobic part for pan is that many pan people self-describe with "that means I'll date men, women, and trans people :) " which is trying to be progressive but is usually considered othering as shit.
For me pan (and poly- and omni- and all the other terms hipsters use for bi) is useless because it assumes sexual attraction is based on cultural identity labels rather than physical attributes--but if this were the case, trans men wouldn't be warned not to get in relationships with lesbians pre-/early-transition because lesbians would self-select away from dating them due to said identity.