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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-10-02 06:28 pm

[ SECRET POST #4290 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4290 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2018-10-03 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
"Evil" is not a word I should have used, I think I use it in a weird way and it's probably confusing and very unclear. So strike that, and replace it with, like, "personal flaws" or "jerkiness" or maybe something more along those lines.

And I get that it's a conversation about the climate of fandom. But the question to me is, why is the climate of fandom that way? And if the climate of fandom has changed, why has it changed? And trying to weigh the difficult possible explanations - for instance whether it's structure of social media, or whether it's the jerkiness of people in fandom, or whether it's larger societal changes that happen to effect people in fandom. And how much emphasis we put on those things. And for a lot of reasons, I think the simple answer of "fandom is bad because fans are jerks" isn't a great one.

(I mean, some fans definitely are jerks, but I tend to assume that people are jerks at fairly consistent rates.)

(Anonymous) 2018-10-03 05:21 am (UTC)(link)
Like I said, I think it's a combination of things with no one simple answer. Changing social media platforms that allow very quick spread of information, (i.e. it's super easy to forward things without giving them a thorough read through or much thought) a fading in popularity of attitudes like YKINMK, a spotlight on social issues in mainstream culture that makes call out culture more widely acceptable - and frequently misused, an increase in torch and pitchfork attitudes where people can win internet points by tearing others apart for even small errors, etc. etc. etc.

Do I think people in general have gotten worse? Not in essentials. But I think it's easier for people to be very vocal about what are occasionally awful, jerky opinions and that can lead to a feeling of camaraderie and safety for other jerks to also be very vocal about their equally awful opinions. So overall, I can easily see how that has the potential to change fandom culture.