[ SECRET POST #4291 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4291 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Tom Hanks]


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[Tom Ellis from Lucifer and Tom Ellis with Miranda Hart in Miranda]


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[George R.R. Martin, A Song of Ice and Fire series]


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[No One Lives]


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[Cloak and Dagger]










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Comments

[fscom]

05. https://i.imgur.com/BZCUeQi.png
[George R.R. Martin, A Song of Ice and Fire series]

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah. Maybe it's a terrible thing to say, but I'll be really surprised if he manages to finish the series.

[(Anonymous)]

Eh, Dune took 20 years, and The Dark Tower 22 years, both with a lower word count than what Martin has created so far. He's not that far off the mark.

[(Anonymous)]

It doesn't make sense to go on word count alone. King began Dark Tower at a much younger age and historically has been a prolific writer. GRRM is 70, NOT a fast writer and each ASIOF book gets longer and longer.

[rivulet027]

Earth Children series was 31 years.

[(Anonymous)]

The first book came out in 1991... dude is way over that by now. And he's also not 50 anymore.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm struggling to understand the logic here. You think that because one writer published X books in Y years, that other writers' work schedules will be directly comparable because... why? You do understand that you're talking about completely different people who don't necessarily share the same work habits, writing speed, personal lives, etc. right?

[(Anonymous)]

I just remember that, with or without him, we're going to see the end of the series by next year. Yes, it would be nice if that included book form (and I still hope it will) but I won't expect it.

Also, if he dies before finishing the series, he doesn't get to complain about the fanfiction.

[sparklywalls]

I know he says his story is different but honestly the fact that the TV show is about to finish has basically killed off my desire to find out what happens in the books, apart from maybe seeing what happens to characters who are still alive in the books yet dead in the show.

Anyway after I read ADWD, I used to feel annoyed with each passing year (and with each passing series of GoT) but now I think "at least I'll get AN ending of some kind?" Even if it's not the one he would use.

[(Anonymous)]

He doesn't want to finish them, or he'd just have a ghost writer finish them based on his notes and then edit whatever he hates before publishing.

I feel bad for the people who have to interact with him in a professional capacity. He seems like a total dick.

[(Anonymous)]

Does he really? I always got a jolly yet unfocused vibe off him but that is based on very slight knowledge. I would be disappointed if he's a dick. Which is silly since I have almost no interest in the books or TV show.

[(Anonymous)]

This is like a perfect real-life justification for not wanting to read WIPs.

[(Anonymous)]

I am kinda hoping after he dies they find the last chapter and he finishes the series with "Rocks falls. Everyone dies a lingering painful death except....." and the pen just kind of trails off. George has become one of my favorite troll and I hope he never finishes the series just for the LOLs.

[(Anonymous)]

I gave up hope too. After how ponderously slow A Dance with Dragons was, I'm incredulous that he thinks he only has two more books to go. He keeps dragging things out when he really needs to start wrapping things up. The guy really is shit at managing himself, and I think secretly he just wants HBO to finish the story for him while he fucks off for what remains of his life. I'd be fine with that, but he's stated that he doesn't want anyone completing the books for him if he dies before he's finished writing, and honestly that is such a dick move for this slowpoke to do to fans who've been waiting for the ending since 1996.

[deird1]

He really should have stuck with his original plan for book 2 and skipped several years. He just keeps trying to add more plot, which makes it SO SLOW AND PONDEROUS.

[(Anonymous)]

I think the whole series has just become too bloated to manage easily, and he's not getting any younger.

[philstar22]

I gave up hope a while ago. His writing style has never been great, and it is getting worse. I'd rather just stick with the show.

[dinogrrl]

Totally agree, I doubt he's ever going to finish the series. What I've read about him doesn't give me the impression of someone who's organized and/or driven enough to get his act together. Like he let it get out of control and now has no idea what to do with it so his solution is just to not do anything.

Personally, I've never read the books and I've never seen the show, and don't really have a desire to. But I do feel for the fans who most likely are never going to get closure. It's a huge letdown.

[(Anonymous)]

I kind of have sympathy for him actually. He must be under tremendous pressure to finish the series, and that kind of pressure probably has him blocked. I don't know if he was under contract to finish it within a time frame, but if he was he probably had a financial reason for needing to finish on top of that. Writers don't just choose to not finish series when they are under contract. Its probably cost him a lot of money to have not finished if he broke a contract.

Alternatively, I wouldn't be surprised if he was under contract by HBO to NOT release any more books until the show had ended. They wouldn't want their series ending spoiled!

[(Anonymous)]

What is wrong with you people? You all sound like literally the worst kind of fans, the kind that only wants a product to consume, no interest in connecting with the author and their vision.

I've been an ASOIAF fan since high school and I have such respect for and receive so much inspiration from GRRM, hearing people assume that because he's big and old that he's going to keel over any second is just so absurd and frankly insipid.

It's just gross to so obliquely complain about an imagined impending death for an author not because they're a human being who shared their creativity with the world, but because you think it means no more bookie for your grubbing HBO-addled hands.

I have FULL faith GRRM will finish the series and I WANT him to take his sweet time and lovingly craft his tale as he always has.

In the meantime, I'll be with the other chill fans spitballing wild and fascinating fan theories and headcanons until the next release confirms or blows them out of the water.

Westeros is such a vibrant fully-realized world GRRM gave for us to play with in our imaginations, even if he did somehow not make it to the end, I'm so forever grateful for his gift to the world.

[(Anonymous)]

he's got no reason to finish it now. He told the show writers all the twists and the ending and they're just about to wrap things up and reveal who live and who dies. He shot himself in the foot. Because no matter what he writes 'differently' the secrets are already going to be out of the bag. He's a slow writer anyway but now what little motivation he did have - to surprise fans, to enjoy their reactions to his twists, to get to zing people with his ending - are all taken away from him. He can finish the books but the impact of them isn't going to be the same after the last TV season of the show drops. Any differences he writes into the story won't be enough when his big endgame is going to be out there before he gets to publishing point. He doesn't strike me as creative or motivated enough to come up with a whole different ending from what he'd planned, and told the showrunners, all along. Also I know he's anti-fanfic but it would have really helped him not to be because the fanfic writer mind set of rewriting a story AU while making it fit in the universe/canon/characters et. is really what he's being expected to do at this point even if the original idea was his in the first place.

Not saying I don't get why he did it. That's a lot of money and he probably told himself he'd have plenty of time to churn out his books before the show got to that point. Just saying - as a writer - he lost a big chunk of what motivates writers to write when he let someone else tell his story before he was done with it himself.