[ SECRET POST #4300 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4300 ⌋

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Comments

[anarchicq]

Forgive me, I interpret it to mean "The voice of female sex workers is not welcome in MY brand of feminism".

Just like TERFs apparently don't feel like Transwomen have a voice in Feminism.

Am I wrong?

[(Anonymous)]

I’m a former sex worker, that’s why I am so against sex work. I know what the industry is like.

[(Anonymous)]

And I know plenty of sex workers who'd disagree with you, so shove it.

[(Anonymous)]

Funny it’s always someone’s “friends” who disagree with me, never an actual sex worker. Almost as though real sex workers don’t really agree and only say these things publically as their clientbase wants it...

[digitalghosts]

I did admin stuff and cannot comment on behalf of anyone else but I think people mainly dislike broad and swiping statements because it simplifies any issue related to the industry plus robs people within of any agency. Never seen the term SWERF describing anyone criticising the market but mostly those who condemn those working within not the mechanics of it.

[(Anonymous)]

You need to read more radfem material then. The whole industry is toxic.

[digitalghosts]

Sure it is, just no need to patronise the workers or insist they are having the wrong kind of experience or talk over them like the comment did.

[(Anonymous)]

I former sex worker. Look up accounts of other woman who have quit the industry, it’s never positive.

[digitalghosts]

I know you are a former sex worker unless you are a different anon and hence I mentioned I worked in same industry as an admin (my main responsibility has been arranging things, plus safety plus all other technical things). I am fairly certain co-workers never fully disclosed their opinions as that is the nature of any work relations - few did change industries and were pretty pleased overall. Some of my friends still are working in said sector and they are averagely satisfied as with any job that is not really your specialisation and is with people.

However, that does not mean it isn't an exhausting and high risk job when working safely and securely which is best situation and ones I described. Most do not work in idealistic conditions then again most also do not work with human traffickers. And yep - people are absolutely vile and do exploit people they think are vulnerable.

I recall Harlot magazine having few sex workers who contributed but not sure if their materials are still available. There had been few BBC3 documentaries on various sectors of sex work and they mostly were positive but they axed the channel and probably only have their current programming online. Did not look much since I left work so cannot link any recs. Negative are easier to find and yep - I did read them and most do have valid criticism.

[(Anonymous)]

We've already argued about this but I just don't think that you can generalize as much as you're doing here.

[(Anonymous)]

So basing my views on my own experiences, the experiences of people around me and the accounts of former sex workers is “generalising” but only listening to sec workers who profit financially is not???

[(Anonymous)]

It's generalizing to treat it as literally universally true, yeah. Which you do.

[(Anonymous)]

Also, the whole idea that "people are only willing to do it because they need the money" is not a good argument because the same could be said of almost all jobs in a capitalist economy. People who are doing it for financial reasons (and who are not being forcefully coerced to do it, and not being abused or exploited) - it's a job, probably a shitty one for a lot of people, but a valid way of making money.

Abuse, exploitation, those are huge problems and we would have to do everything we could to address those problems, those are very big problems that we should take seriously, those things are very harmful and bad and I want them gone, I am not in favor of those things. But I don't think that you have to outlaw sex work to address those very bad things.

[(Anonymous)]

Most people don’t have twitter accounts proclaiming how good their job is as a way to earn more. Don’t twist my words.

[(Anonymous)]

Then what are you saying?

[(Anonymous)]

That sex workers say their life is great because they are either new and naive or want to male more money. They profit finacially from saying how much they love sex and how great their last appointment was etc. It’s all fake. I know, I wrote the same things and heard what they really thought. Why is everyone so stupid to take blatent advertising as fact.

[(Anonymous)]

Because that's the way our whole society is set up. It's bollocks but it's true.

[(Anonymous)]

Except what they are covering up is physical abuse. Other jobs aren’t like that. Why are you intent in supporting abuse?

[(Anonymous)]

You are really talking about your experience as an absolute truth, though. Do you think there are absolutely no exceptions and that every single sex worker is unhappy and, if they say the contrary, they are lying? All of them in the world?

[(Anonymous)]

If they are telling the truth, they are a very small number. Why make laws that suit them when thousands of women are being abused and murdered because of prostitution. You want to appease the 1%.