[ SECRET POST #593 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #593 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 09 pages, 215 secrets from Secret Submission Post #085.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 4 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

Re: 187

[(Anonymous)]

LOL

It's a fantasy novel meant to criticize fundamentalist religion, not a polemic ala Richard Dawkins. Would you even blink at a fantasy novel written by a Hindu that had many gods in its pantheon? Or by a Christian who had a Jesus figure defeating a bunch of Pagans talking animals leads by a witch?

Re: 187

[weyrdchic.livejournal.com]

Oh I don't care what fictional allegories are set up as long as they, y'know, make sense. You can talk about your own religion all you want, that's perfectly fine, and you can bitch about other people or ideas IF it makes sense. I love Discworld because they take the time to do it properly and thoughtfully, and Dragonlance has a lot of thinly-veiled stuff about the Catholic Church in the time of the Inquisition, but that's not a fuck you to anyone who practices it right NOW. And they take the time to point out that just because people in a religion act like idiots doesn't mean that the higher power, if there is one, actually approves.

I'm guessing you're talking about Narnia, which Pullman wanted to bitch about in the first place, and I've never read it, seriously. I've seen the first movie, the anti-Paganism got lost on me (and I'm saying that as a former Pagan) amidst the 'let's retell the crucifixion and btw candy = drugs!' but I know it gets more obvious later and I doubt I'd have much stomach for it then. I know about the infamous thing with Susan, and that definitely pisses me off. If someone left a secret about that saying 'I think it was the right thing to do', I'd bitch about that too.

Fiction doesn't exist in a vacuum. If there's an allegory, it's meant to get a message across, so if I find the message freaking stupid, especially when it blames an entire group of people for what only some of them do, and what people of other faiths do too...

Re: 187

[(Anonymous)]

especially when it blames an entire group of people for what only some of them do, and what people of other faiths do too...

Pls not to be confusing the OP of the secret and Phillip Pullman.

Re: 187

[weyrdchic.livejournal.com]

If that's not his view then I'm sorry for being mistaken, but that's the impression I had long before the OP, at the very least running off the books and a few things I'd read him say: Christians are either evil fundies or generally deluded and contributing to an evil system. That seems to be the way most vocal atheists I've encountered treat religion: "It's not just that we have no way of knowing but I choose not to buy into it, it's that the very act of believing in things that might not be true will make us all bigoted murderers, therefore let's 'kill God.'" So considering that's what the His Dark Materials books *literally* do, I hope you can see my mistake, if it is one.