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fandomsecrets2008-08-20 05:26 pm
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[ SECRET POST #593 ]
⌈ Secret Post #593 ⌋
Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.
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Notes:
Secrets Left to Post: 09 pages, 215 secrets from Secret Submission Post #085.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 4 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
tl;dr
2. Any person who has passed high school European history can tell you that
a) Hitler persecuted gypsies and many 'flamboyant' male homosexuals along with Jews. His persecution of the Jews was not based so much on religion (Hitler wasn't that great of a christian) but on perceived racial differences. He thought of the Jews as a race, and one that threatened the purity of the Aryan nation. Now his propaganda? Mentioned the religion stuff a bit more, yes, but still definitely focused on the race thing. I'm more than willing to agree that racism sucks hairy monkey balls.
b) Crusades: The very first one was a response by the Byzantine emperor to the Turks that were invading his land. He went to the church because they were pretty much the most powerful institution anywhere near him at the time and he was getting his pansy ass whooped.
c) Spanish Inquisition: You see, there was this place on the Iberian peninsula called Granada and, inconviently for Ferdinand and Isabella, it was mostly occupied by 'moors'. I'll give you a bit more leeway on this one because Isabella was a religious fanatic extrordinare.
d) Witch hunts: blame misogynism, at least partially, and please please please do not try to say that it resulted singularly from Christianity because they were far from the first group to oppress women.
Sure, religion had at least something to do with all of those events . . . but there's just as much in each of them that you can blame on something else.
3. Anyone who has passed basic common sense knows that you can't expect people not to fuck anyone up. Correlation =/= causation. Case in point: French Revolution. Most of the people there were atheists/deists and all of them were idealists . . . and they had this thing called the Cult of Reason, which worshipped . . . reason. Most of them thought christianity was a load of bs as well. Guess what. They beheaded people. Josef Stalin. Horrid man, and an atheist. Both groups tried to impose their ideologies on other people, but both were definitely motivated by other things. Does this mean there is anything inherently morally wrong with atheism? No.
Again, new testament. Is there anything in there that can be considered by most rational people amoral? Not really. But plenty of people have either twisted the message or ignored it altogether.
4. I consider myself a Catholic and I don't really agree with the whole transubstantiation stuff. I won't pretend to be a Newton expert but not suscribing to one or two tenets of dogma doesn't make you a deist. If he believed that Jesus was a divine figure, that makes him Christian. If he just believed in an unspecified higher power, than he was a deist.
Re: tl;dr
(Anonymous) 2008-08-21 04:36 am (UTC)(link)Re: tl;dr
And Jews don't need your fucking sympathy.
Re: tl;dr
(Anonymous) 2008-08-21 05:45 am (UTC)(link)Re: tl;dr