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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-10-20 03:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #4308 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4308 ⌋

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[Ian and Mickey from Shameless (US)]


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[Fandom Secrets]


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[severus snape x ron weasley]


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[Keira Knightley]


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[Return of the Obra Dinn]


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[Neil Gaiman, Good Omens]










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[personal profile] philstar22 2018-10-20 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, it is realistic. But she isn't exactly a heroine? I guess I just wouldn't show the movie to a kid without a discussion. Because the whole message of the movie is "you just need to dream and good things will happen," And I don't think that's a good message to just give kids without talking about it.

(Anonymous) 2018-10-20 08:52 pm (UTC)(link)
It's actually more like "be kind and good things can happen to you" and while not without fault, it's not the worst thing to tell kids.
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[personal profile] greghousesgf 2018-10-20 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought the message was "be pretty and have little feet and your problems will be solved by a supernatural being", which isn't really very good advice.

(Anonymous) 2018-10-20 08:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, maybe. I honestly think that especially at a young age, parents really overthink these things and it also depends on the kid. I never read fairy tales as a child with the idea that oh look, role models! I should totally do what that person in the fairy tale is doing! Because well... they were fictional. It's too simplistic to act like even young children soak up messages from the media indiscriminately. By all means, the discussion couldn't hurt! But we probably over analyze this stuff more than they do.

(Anonymous) 2018-10-20 09:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Another point that occurred to me - is it bad for young girls to know that you not being able to physically stand up for yourself, kick ass and take names makes you worthless? Do we have room to tell stories about women who aren't always in a place to take control of their own lives? Is it a bad thing when young women who cannot help themselves receive help from others?

(Anonymous) 2018-10-20 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
There's room for all kinds of stories. But no one is actually disagreeing, and it's reasonable to select what kind of messages you specifically choose to put in front of your small child.

Jeez.

(Anonymous) 2018-10-20 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not disputing that. I'm merely responding to the implication that there's something amiss with the message because Cinderella isn't a "heroine" in the sense that she's able to take active control of her own life.

(Anonymous) 2018-10-20 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
You can get that message from the film, and there's nothing amiss with that message. I'm not sure that message was the intended one, or the obvious one, in the film, and I agree with the idea that it's just a level of complexity that might be a little less than ideal for children as presented in the film.