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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-10-20 03:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #4308 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4308 ⌋

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[Ian and Mickey from Shameless (US)]


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[Fandom Secrets]


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[severus snape x ron weasley]


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[Keira Knightley]


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[Return of the Obra Dinn]


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[Neil Gaiman, Good Omens]










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(Anonymous) 2018-10-20 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Sure. I think the anon you were originally responding to (not me) is exaggerating someone by bringing medieval France into it, but they're likely reacting to the fact that philstar is approaching the issue from a contemporary viewpoint (i.e. questioning why Cinderella isn't more proactive) when the movie was made in the 1950s, based on a much older fairy tale. So philstar is treating it like it's a realistic, contemporary scenario, and others are pointing out why that doesn't really work.

(Anonymous) 2018-10-20 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure that I really understand what you mean. Certainly, Philstar is judgjng the movie from a modern point of view. But that's a totally valid frame of judgment, and a valid way of understanding the movie's message. The historical explanation of the roots of the movie in the 1950s, and the older fairy tales that it's drawing on, are extremely important for understanding why the movie is the way it is, but it doesn't follow that you have to like or approve of the message, or show it to children. You can understand why Cinderella isn't more proactive, and still want her to be. The historical stuff - it's an explanation, but it's not a justification, necessarily.

(Anonymous) 2018-10-21 02:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Never mind that plenty of old fairy tales and films from the 50s portray women behaving far more proactively than Cinderella did. Old timey sexism explains a lot of problems but it isn't the perfect excuse some people use it as.