[ SECRET POST #4311 ]

[case]

⌈ Secret Post #4311 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.




__________________________________________________



02.


__________________________________________________


03.


__________________________________________________



04.


__________________________________________________



05.


__________________________________________________



06.


__________________________________________________



07.










Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 23 secrets from Secret Submission Post #617.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

Re: It does take place in, like, 1962.

[(Anonymous)]

1. It does?
2. If so, it's still a 1962 with superheroes and supervillains with advanced technology. The "historical accuracy" argument works as well here as it does with, say, Game of Thrones.

Re: It does take place in, like, 1962.

[(Anonymous)]

1. Yes.

2. I don't buy that having advanced technology or superheroes or magic means that you have to change certain attitudes and behavior of the era you set it in. Those things can be part of what helps define your setting. I'm fine with Stranger Things being set in the 80s and having the attitudes and behaviors that go along with that and them also having monsters from other dimensions. I was okay with them having super-serum, alien tech, and advanced tech in Agent Carter and there still being attitudes and behaviors from the 40s.

Re: It does take place in, like, 1962.

[(Anonymous)]

It's just interesting you're willing to suspend disbelief for some things, but not others, is all I'm saying. There's absolutely nothing about this movie series that says "historical accuracy!" or even "real world!" Attempting to justify that it makes sense to have these sorts of storylines in a cartoon about superheroes is a STRETCH.

By the way, it in fact does make sense to have such attitudes and behaviors in Agent Carter because that was the whole point of her arc, particularly in season 1. I have never seen Stranger Things so I can't comment on it. But I honestly am having one hell of a time coming up with any REASONABLE, NECESSARY plot or characterization purpose for misogynistic/patriarchal attitudes in the Incredibles.

Re: It does take place in, like, 1962.

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

All I was saying was that the attitudes make sense to me in the context of the era. I feel like that era was chosen for its aesthetic and because of the way history had gone - all kinds of advances in the 40s, a pullback in the 50s, big changes in the 60s, sort of paralleled the story they wanted to tell about superheroes in the first movie. In the second movie, there is more breaking away from the culture of how it had been, which worked well in that time period. Somebody who hasn't been a stay-at-home parent and hasn't been expected to be has to learn a lot of stuff. And Bob obviously hadn't been a stay-at-home parent at that point, which fits with the era, for me. If it doesn't work for you, okay.

Re: It does take place in, like, 1962.

[(Anonymous)]

1. Yes
2. You should read some comics actually written in that era. They're full of superheroes and supervillains with advanced technology. And at the end of the day, Western society at large still pushes back against the "stay at home dad" concept. If the movie was set tomorrow, that part of it would still be "historically accurate." Breaking down and normalizing dads as the at-home parent, particularly in entertainment directed at children, is important in the same way that other types of representation are important. Doesn't mean you have to watch it, but it still serves a purpose.

Re: It does take place in, like, 1962.

[(Anonymous)]

Hi, thanks, please don't tell me what I "should" do (especially as you're assuming I haven't).

If you want to normalize stay-at-home-dads than fucking normalize it. Treat co-parenting as something normal and that a character with a teenage child has over a decade of experience at, not something that a character has to "learn how to do" years after his little missus popped the kids out. Normalize the parenting, not the resistance/resentment to parenting and confusion/incompetence at it. You've completely missed the point of my criticism. I don't care that they have a stay-at-home dad. I care about how they portray it.