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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-10-29 06:35 pm

[ SECRET POST #4317 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4317 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2018-10-29 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd love someone to go for it! I'd love to see some kind of super-shaggy, weird, experimental version of the series that can accommodate stuff like that, even if it wouldn't actually work in total.

I don't think anyone's going to spend money on making it though.

(Anonymous) 2018-10-29 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I will happily join you in burning Middle-Earth, anon

I'm just so fascinated that even when he's not singing, Bombadil's spoken lines have a rhythm to them that match the cadence of the songs. he's such a glorious anomaly in the story, I've never minded him.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2018-10-29 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
It would be fun to see Tom Bombadil on film. I don't really trust anyone to be able to pull off his scenes, though.

(Anonymous) 2018-10-30 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
Peter Jackson definitely wouldn't have been able to even if he'd wanted to

(Anonymous) 2018-10-30 02:32 am (UTC)(link)
Well now I'm imagining Tom and Goldberry as the evil Power Couple of Middle Earth, bringing about the Apocalypse in accentual verse.

Why don't people like Tom Bombadil?

(Anonymous) 2018-10-30 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
I enjoyed this character. I don't really understand why so many folks don't like him...It'd be nice to hear why!

Re: Why don't people like Tom Bombadil?

(Anonymous) 2018-10-30 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
- Weird
- Sings bad poetry
- Nothing to do with the plot

Re: Why don't people like Tom Bombadil?

(Anonymous) 2018-10-30 03:09 am (UTC)(link)
I’ve got nothing against him, but he doesn’t translate to film well. The problem with Tom is that he isn’t part of the same story as the other characters. He isn’t even part of the same literary tradition. He’s basically pulling our mains into a crossover.

That’s kind of cool, but it does grind the main storyline to a halt fairly early in the action. And when you’re dealing with a story that is already fairy leisurely paced, that’s a problem, at least in a movie. I actually do think that clever writers could successfully include Tom if they were working in a miniseries format.

Re: Why don't people like Tom Bombadil?

(Anonymous) 2018-10-30 03:33 pm (UTC)(link)
When I first read LotR, I hit the Tom Bombadil part and everything came screeching to a halt. I got so bored and irritated with that section that I put the book down and didn't pick it up again FOR A YEAR. In the end, I skipped over his scenes and finished the book, then went back and read the Bombadil section when I was no longer concerned with the main story. It's not just in movie format that Bombadil screws over the momentum of the plot.
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Re: Why don't people like Tom Bombadil?

[personal profile] tree_and_leaf 2018-10-30 03:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not wild about Bombadil himself - it's the singing, even though on the whole I quite like Tolkien's poetry -, but if you cut him you lose the creepy weirdness of the Old Forest and the Barrow Downs (which is possibly the scariest scene in the whole damn trilogy), so I am massively pro keeping him over all.

(Anonymous) 2018-10-30 03:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel like it's a no-win situation with Tom Bombadil. I think that any filmmakers/show-runners trying to include him would be inclined to change him to better fit in with everything else, which would piss off all the Bombadil fans, but altering everything else to make him feel less random would piss off the same people. Meanwhile, filming everything 100% exactly as it is in the book would make those people happy in theory, but they might not actually like the finished product as much as they think they would and it probably wouldn't result in a particularly entertaining and commercially-viable product (and the prospect of money is ultimately what brings Tolkien to us on-screen).

That said, since we've already had a "straight" live-action LotR adaptation, I agree with the first Anon and would be fine with a trippy, weird one, kind of like how different Batman adaptations go all over the place.

(Anonymous) 2018-10-30 04:06 pm (UTC)(link)
That’s kind of why I think it would work in a series format, since you can have your off-the-wall musical Bombadil episode. Once it’s over, if anyone ever bringd him up again you can go the canon route of saying he’d get bored and wander off if you tried to get him to do anything useful and ignore him.

I’m all for the trippy animated version of the story, though.