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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-11-04 03:06 pm

[ SECRET POST #4323 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4323 ⌋

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[Iron Fist, season two]


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[Venom]


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[Dragonsphere]


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[The Captive Prince series by C.S. Pacat]


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[Sarah Michelle Gellar]










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NAYRT

(Anonymous) 2018-11-04 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm gonna assume you're not making an actual attempt to engage with anyone on an honest or meaningful level here.

Lol! You're like the pot calling the vaguely grayish thing black with this one. AYRT's comment was ever so slightly confusing. I read it twice, to make sure I understood what they were saying. But here, let me help you:

We all have different ways of choosing to express out creative process, and that's valid. But contrary to your initial assertion, we don't all have different experiences when it comes to whether we literally hear our characters speaking to us and whether we experience out fictional creations as being in control of us. If someone literally hears their character speaking to them, or experiences the actual sensation of not being in control of what they do because their character has that control...that's not "potato potahto," that's a serious mental healthy problem.

Re: NAYRT

(Anonymous) 2018-11-04 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't believe this is supposed to be a clarification lol.

Re: NAYRT

(Anonymous) 2018-11-04 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
C+ trolling. You're getting there, keep it up!

Re: NAYRT

(Anonymous) 2018-11-04 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Now I'm really confused....

Re: NAYRT

(Anonymous) 2018-11-04 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
So I think it makes more sense in the context of this conversation to set aside the people with Actual Mental Illness.

I think the question is best understood as basically: when people express their creative process in terms of their characters making decisions for them, is that an affectation, or is it a valid way to understand and express the creative process?

Re: NAYRT

(Anonymous) 2018-11-04 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
when people express their creative process in terms of their characters making decisions for them, is that an affectation, or is it a valid way to understand and express the creative process?

I think it can be an affectation and still be fundamentally valid. I don't think we, as a group, will ever be able to agree on whether it is or is not an affectation, and I don't think we need to. I personally find it an affected way of saying what it's saying. And to the mild extent that it annoys me, it annoys me because, to me, it feels affected.

However, that doesn't mean that describing one's experience of writing in those terms is invalid or Wrong, and I wouldn't ever claim it was.
esteefee: John in the pilot's chair, tongue sticking out, with the caption -straight line, just need to fly in a straight line- (think)

Re: NAYRT

[personal profile] esteefee 2018-11-04 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah. This is the only thread that actually makes sense to me. IA. I believe it's an affected way to say, basically, "I wrote myself down the wrong path with the character's motivations, bc now it doesn't make emotional sense for them to do what I want the plot to do."

Usually, that means now they won't jump in the sack for another 100K.
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Re: NAYRT

[personal profile] kittydesade 2018-11-06 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
I think it can be affected but I also think sometimes people who are ... maybe I want to say emotionally intuitive? Who are feeling their way through writing the story without being able to articulate the underpinnings of it, use that way as a shorthand for what you just said. Because that's how it makes sense to them, and they haven't unraveled the story and the process of story writing enough to describe it another way.
esteefee: John in the pilot's chair, tongue sticking out, with the caption -straight line, just need to fly in a straight line- (think)

Re: NAYRT

[personal profile] esteefee 2018-11-06 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
Ayup.