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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-11-06 06:45 pm

[ SECRET POST #4325 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4325 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2018-11-07 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
I have more of a problem with him being a violent racist piece of of shit than I do with him and his brothers being basic as hell.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-07 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
It's a little harder to figure out how we should think about that kind of thing given that he was 17 when he did it.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-07 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not confused about what to think in the slightest.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-07 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not confused, either. Violent hate crimes are one of those things that most people agree are bad.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-07 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
17 is a legal adult in some places, and certainly old enough to know better.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-07 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
It wasn't just the one time though

(Anonymous) 2018-11-07 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
17 year old mistakes are drinking not blinding a man

(Anonymous) 2018-11-07 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
A 17 year old “my bad” mistake is getting blackout drunk. Not I’m gonna call people the n word and beat a Vietnamese man until he’s blind. That’s assault and a hate crime.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-07 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
He still gives fauxpologies about it, so I think it's pretty clear how to think about it. Yes, 17-year-olds do dumb stuff - including violence - but many of them learn better. He obviously hasn't (or at least just enough to feel sorry for himself).

(Anonymous) 2018-11-07 02:24 am (UTC)(link)
BUT ITS OKAY CAUSE HIS VICTIM FORGAVE HIM AND HE’S CLEARLY SORRY!!! Are his fans biggest defense. I honestly don’t get how this douche has legitimate fans. He’s got the charisma of a wet sponge.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-07 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
No dog in this race, but... how do we know it's a fauxpology and not a genuine one, especially if his victim has said he's forgiven him?

(Anonymous) 2018-11-07 06:07 am (UTC)(link)
Because his remorse extends to “my victim forgives me so it’s okay/absolves me of my guilt” fauxpology and not actually you know, doing something about it. Also ofc his victim is gonna forgive him, he’s a rich white man with power what does he have to gain by saying “no fuck you” outside a legion of harrassment going HDU not forgive this mediocre white man cant you see he’s sorry!!!! Position that minorities constantly get put in.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-07 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
LOL, no it's not. Not unless you buy the bullshit about how people under 18 don't know right from wrong and shouldn't be held accountable for their own actions. That's the line of reasoning people used to defend the Steubenville rapists and Brock Turner. Like rape, violently attacking someone because of their race doesn't fall into a moral gray area just because the perpetrators are minors.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-07 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
Please don't give me that a 17 year old is a harmless, clueless child who shouldn't be held accountable for their actions bullshit. Amazing how that only seems to apply to a select few 17 year olds, isn't it?

(Anonymous) 2018-11-07 06:10 am (UTC)(link)
We should hold 17-year-olds accountable for their actions, absolutely. But I'm more inclined to believe that someone has matured and changed from who they used to be if we're talking about things that they did when they were 17. I'm more inclined to believe that they aren't now who they were then.

And I am strongly willing to extend the same principle across the board, thank you very much.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-07 02:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, but that guy still talks about it like he didn't do anything wrong, so like. We're not just judging him for something he did way back when. He was shit then, had the time to grow and change, but didn't, and we know that.

He's still shit, anon.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-07 05:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Is that a fact? Hasn't he apologized a bunch of times, including to the guy he beat?

(Anonymous) 2018-11-07 10:21 am (UTC)(link)
TBH, I'm pretty inclined to forgive people for what they do when they're 17, as a general rule.

And in Mark Wahlberg's case, I find it way more worrying that he's spent the last 10 years making movies about adrenaline-junkie manly-man violent protagonists and/or movies exceptionalizing the U.S., its military, and its secret murdery organizations (CIA).* That says all I need to know about his moral character. For some reason, SJ types get really hung up on the hate crime he committed as a 17-year-old and not the way he's using his money and platform as a producer right now?? TODAY?? Am I the only one who is vaguely aware of the kind of movies he's been putting out or do people not care?

* Disclaimer: I have never watched a single movie starring or produced by Mark Wahlberg, so I'm basing my knowledge of his recent filmography 100% on trailers.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-07 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah. I managed to miss this info until about five years ago and I am horrified anyway.