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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-11-09 06:33 pm

[ SECRET POST #4328 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4328 ⌋

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07. [SPOILERS for The Haunting of Hill House]











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(Anonymous) 2018-11-10 09:18 am (UTC)(link)
To some extent I think I agree with this. I think it's really a question of what horror, on an existential level, means to a person. To me, horror as a genre is...almost inherently either malignant or nihilistic. Things go badly. Things degrade. Things descend into pain and fear and chaos. If the narrative is capable of ending happily, then it is not, fundamentally, a malignant or nihilistic narrative. And therefore, to me, it can still be a very scary narrative in parts, but it's not a horror narrative.

That said, to me there are degrees to this argument. For example, to me a movie like Mama [vague spoilers for Mama ahead] lingers somewhere in the space between "dark fairy tale" and "horror," and that's largely because of its ending. It doesn't end happily, but it does end with hope, and with a sense that the narrative believes in the protective power of love.

I guess I agree with you that a story with a happy ending isn't really horror - not to me anyway. But there is a lot of ground between "happy ending" and "darkest possible ending." And while, to me, dark endings make for stories that are far more quintessentially "horror," I think there's a whole lot of room for hybrid stories that are part horror and part something else.

However, for my money, the ending of Hill House was far to close to happy for my taste. It didn't seem narratively cohesive with the rest of the story. It was a jarring right-angle turn, and for me it strongly undermined the story.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-11 04:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Horror can be scary and/or gory. It brings up questions about survival and humanity and what makes us human, what we'll do to survive, what exists beyond our world and our lives.
But it doesn't have to be nihilistic.
Something like Santa Clarita Diet gets labelled horror because there's gore and a zombie-like protagonist. But it's not meant to be without hope and is deliberately humorous. Are you saying it's not allowed the horror label at all?