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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-11-10 04:03 pm

[ SECRET POST #4329 ]


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(Anonymous) 2018-11-10 09:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I can see it if it's a crossover. I have movie/book and movie/comic canons, and it is frustrating when they are tagged wrong (especially if I have one version). But crossing over adaptations can be fun.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-10 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
+1
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[personal profile] rosehiptea 2018-11-10 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
That's exactly what I was thinking. I mean the first AOS movie had a character from TOS, so that could be done. But I do agree that they're not interchangeable.
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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2018-11-10 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Multiversal stories are big parts of both the Prime and Alternate universe, too. The AOS comics' final arc, IDIC, was one big multiversal crossover, thanks to the Alternate universe's version of Gary Mitchell, though they didn't use the Prime or Prime Mirror universes. (The Prime Mirror Kirk got a brief one-panel appearance near the end of the arc that introduced the gender-swapped universe (which was used in IDIC), but that's it.)
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[personal profile] kribban 2018-11-11 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
Are the comics any good? I've been thinking of trying them out.
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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2018-11-11 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, they are. The ongoing series, anyway.

The first series, merely titled Star Trek, started out by retelling TOS episodes in the alternate universe (sometimes fairly close to the original version, some diverging greatly), then branched into original stories. Both phases of the series are good. Boldly Go follows Beyond and tells entirely original stories. Re: the minis: The Khan mini-series clarifies some issues from Into Darkness, but was unmemorable beyond that, and I haven't read the prequel series that preceded Into Darkness. (I don't think they did one for Beyond.)

The first Green Lantern crossover (which quickly becomes yet another alternate universe...which sadly didn't appear in IDIC) is also good. (I'm still yet to finish the second one.)

(Anonymous) 2018-11-10 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I think you can conceivably write stories that would make sense in either universe

You could use elements of both in one fic easily.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-10 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe backstory or episode plot from the original series. Or characters from the universes could meet. Or, here's a thought, since Spock prime is literally from the original series, there's always going to be part of the original series represented if he's in the fic.
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Re: You could use elements of both in one fic easily.

[personal profile] soldatsasha 2018-11-10 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, this is what I was thinking. I read a lot of TOS and AOS stuff. There's inevitably some crossover in AOS stuff bc the universes are quite literally linked in canon. You're talking about two sets of the same people who share 90% of their backstory.

I get that it's frustrating when you're trying to find specifically TOS-stuff that it's all AOS stuff tagged that way. But it's not inaccurate to tag lots of fic with both tags.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-11 11:03 am (UTC)(link)
I personally HATE the AOS with a burning passion... It might be what's fueling me, but hell, if you aren't goddamn right about them not being interchangeable!
I mean the guy who did them never even liked Star Trek- didn't even watch the original series! He only used the movies as a stepping stone for all I care! Didn't bother with either the characterization, or integrity(!), that the original series was so brilliant at developing.
The AOS is everything that the original Star Trek made a point in deconstructing. Uhh... Sorry for the rant, I just really can't help myself;;

Basically, you are absolutely right.
While I understand why people mentioned it being fine in a crossover. The AOS kinda makes that point redundant. Because they essentially exist already as an AU, and have already made itself some sort of crossover by including the original Spock in their movies. Liking either/both installment is perfectly fine- but in no way do they have anything to do with each other.