[ SECRET POST #4330 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4330 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

This is a good and reasonable post you've made.

i'm all for explicit rep, i'm all for out and proud characters. but gdi if this wasn't two men, but a man and a woman, there would be none of this argument, because bob staring broodingly at alice's image in the desire mirror (tm) would be explicit enough.

Yeah but at the same time, with an M/F couple, that could be a legitimate thematic choice to make. With a gay couple, that could be a legitimate thematic choice but in reality is nearly always a concession to people who don't visible gayness. So it's tough.

or that a character only counts as canon gay if they're canonically making out with a person of the same sex right this moment, as if real life gay people get less gay if they're single and not looking to mingle right this second.

from my point of view (as someone who agrees with the idea that the representation of Dumbledore was some weak shit) - I don't think the argument is whether Dumbledore is a gay character. He certainly is a gay character. The question is how that's represented in the text and narratives, and especially in the books, whether it's really present at all, and then how does that affect what it means for him to be a gay character.

[(Anonymous)]

This probably wouldn't be such a debate if people would quit stanning for Dumbledore as a great example of LGBTQ people in middle-grade/ya fantasy rather than just moving on to better books.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah. Or insisting at great length that there was no physically possible way for Dumbledore to be identified as gay in the books.