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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-11-12 05:15 pm

[ SECRET POST #4331 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4331 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Sabrina the Teenage Witch reboot]


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[The Great British Bake Off, series 9]


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[K/DA - POP/STARS - League of Legends]


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[Pointless (Australia)]


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[Penny Dreadful]


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[Diablo Mobile/Blizzard]










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(Anonymous) 2018-11-13 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
Let's put this in perspective. Word of God says that pureblood wizard kids are homeschooled until they go to Hogwarts and Ginny is 10 years younger than Bill. So Molly spent 20 years running a full-time daycare and primary school, right up until Ginny went to Hogwarts in book 2. Sure, they could have hired people to do that so that Molly could get a job, but the likelihood of her making enough to cancel out what you'd have to pay for full-time childcare and early education for between 2 and 7 children at a time over 20 years is slim. Added to that, this mystery job would have to allow for maternity leave every couple of years.

And, of course, once Ginny was shipped off to Hogwarts, she could have gotten a job, but the type of jobs that were available to middle-aged women with no meaningful prior job experience in the early 90s were not the poverty-solvers that you might imagine.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-13 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
What kind of jobs were actually available to middle-aged women with no meaningful prior job experience who could do magic in the early 90s?

(Anonymous) 2018-11-13 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
Probably a lot fewer than for the non-magical ones, since most of the jobs available to middle-aged women with no prior experience who couldn't do magic are things that they specifically had spells and house elves to do in Wizarding Society.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-13 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
But why should the wizarding economy be modeled after or resemble the Muggle economy in the first place? It's not like house-elves doing housework is the only example of Muggle labor that could be supplanted by magic. If you want the magical economy to look like what it would actually rationally look like if people could do magic, then the changes are going to be a lot more deeper and more thorough-going than that. What are the Weaselys even spending money on in the first place? What's scarcity for a wizard? If you're trying to use actual economic logic to justify why the Weaselys are poor, I don't think you can stop at the doorstep there. Or just accept that there's not really an in-universe, Watsonian explanation to be found.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-13 02:50 am (UTC)(link)
OP said that if the Weasleys didn’t want to be poor, all Molly had to do was get a job, so assuming some semblance of equivalent economic structure is necessary to participate in this discussion at all. Otherwise, the Weasleys don’t want anything because they’re imaginary and they’re poor to fulfill a very standard literary trope. So, given that we’re bringing real world economics into it in the first place, there are two viewpoints being debated. Either poor people wouldn’t be poor if they’d stop being so lazy and get jobs or poverty is more complicated than that. Then there’s you, with “wizards aren’t real so we can’t have a real discussion unless we create an entire alternate magical economic system first.” Maybe you should work on that and get back to us when you’re done.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-13 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe OP is really asking

"Why didn't they fuck less?"

(Anonymous) 2018-11-13 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
And tbh the actual answer to that question is that if they fucked less and weren't poor, they would be a fundamentally different trope and fundamentally different character archetypes, and we shouldn't bother pretending that actual contemporary material realism is an important part of the Harry Potter series in the first place