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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-11-14 05:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #4333 ]


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(Anonymous) 2018-11-14 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I watched the movie several times in the theatre and read the book when I was younger. It wasn't until I was older I really understood what was being shown.

It shows how disruptive and scary an alien encounter would be, even if it turns out to be wondrous in the end.

The movie and the story is not unsympathetic towards the estranged family. And it isn't sparing towards how driven and obsessed the main character becomes and his behavior. It is showing how disruptive such an event would be in the lives of ordinary characters.

And the terror of the mom character losing her child, and what she would do to get her child back.

The movie works so well because it is the everyman character focused.

Hell, I was thinking of one of the main character's kids saying he doesn't understand fractions as my daughter is struggling to learn them herself.

Sure the French scientist was fascinating- and I was very fascinated with him, but I don't think he would be so fascinating as the main character.

The movie is about the perception about the aliens as much about the encounter with them.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-15 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
Huh. Well, if that was their intent, they should have picked a good ol' country boy type or a suburban home type to play their Everyman. Richard Dreyfus is a fast-talking, neurotic New Yorker type. Not at all an Everyman. He might even have ADD, although at the time that wasn't a popular diagnosis, but you get my thinking. He wasn't neurotypical even before the aliens got hold of him.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-15 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
He did a good job, imo. *shrug*

A good ole country boy type is more a stereotype anyways.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-15 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
Which doesn't at all respond to the point. Think "suburban dad and average blue-collar schmoe of Indiana." You won't light on Richard Dreyfus in a million years because he doesn't fit the role. He was cast because Spielberg liked him in Jaws.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2018-11-15 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
Eh. To each their own. I liked him in the role, and I liked the role.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-15 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
As a native Hoosier, the size of the inexplicable overlook is more jarring than Dreyfus and Garr. Indiana isn't entirely flat cornfields but ...

(Anonymous) 2018-11-15 02:15 am (UTC)(link)
Also while Stranger Things managed to nail the Indiana small city culture pretty well, the landscape is so obviously upstate Georgia.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2018-11-15 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
I honestly don't know what you mean. Overlook....? Maybe it's time for a rewatch.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-15 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
This scene, and the later scene at the same location:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MW3KJUa8FQ

I don't know where they shot that, but it's not central Indiana.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2018-11-15 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
Ah ha, okay. And the sign said Ohio State Line, which is weird since I thought the aliens were going to Wyoming (Devil's Tower), so going *into* Ohio is weird.

And i totally forgot they were in Indiana.

I'm guessing that bit was filmed in California.

"Filming took place in Burbank, California; Devils Tower National Monument in Wyoming; two abandoned World War II airship hangars at the former Brookley Air Force Base in Mobile, Alabama; and the Louisville and Nashville Railroad depot in Bay Minette."

(Anonymous) 2018-11-15 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I'm willing to bet California.

Pawnee is another place that says Indiana, and actually is pretty credible until they decide to go to Ron's cabin or the newly minted National Park in the last episode, then it's so California.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2018-11-15 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
It's like me watching Supernatural going 'homg, that is so not Missouri/Kansas!!'

(Anonymous) 2018-11-15 05:30 pm (UTC)(link)
The whole "High, rocky ground overlooking completely flat and heavily populated area" absolutely SCREAMS Los Angeles.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-15 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
I had been wondering about that, but I thought "Maybe southern Indiana is less flat and that's where he is??"

(Anonymous) 2018-11-15 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
Which doesn't at all respond to the point.

it's a metaphor ...

(Anonymous) 2018-11-15 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
... for religious revelation. He's one of the minor Old Testament prophets.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2018-11-15 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
I've always really liked that movie, so - I guess I can't agree. Maybe a bit *more* of the French guy/scientists, but not a movie totally focused on them. It becomes an entirely different movie,then.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-15 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
One of my favorites.
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[personal profile] rosehiptea 2018-11-15 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
I do like the movie and I think part of why I like it is that I saw it before the cliches were cliches, but I'll take your word for it that it isn't the case with you. And I think you make a good point - I was also intrigued by the French scientist. The Richard Dreyfuss character treated his family like crap but I do think we were supposed to sympathize with the family.
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[personal profile] silverr 2018-11-15 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
I can understand this, OP, as my very favorite part of the entire movie is the Dharamsala scene, in great part to the situational irony of the communication going through 3 translators.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-15 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
I've never actually seen this, but I usually fail to identify with supposed "everyman" characters.
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[personal profile] greghousesgf 2018-11-15 04:37 am (UTC)(link)
your points are all valid. plus it bugged the fuck out of me that we never really find out anything about the aliens.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-15 05:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I think messing with another species' heads instead of just transmitting radio signals is a real asshole move, but obviously the aliens have a different culture than ours and maybe they think it's more polite.