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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-11-14 05:46 pm

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(Anonymous) 2018-11-14 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't ship them but I agree about the lack of chemistry.

I miss Jon/Ygritte.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-17 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
+1

(Anonymous) 2018-11-15 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
I can't ship any of the surviving Starks together because my heart just wants them to be a family again after everything they've been through. I've been really liking Sansa & Jon, and then Sansa & Arya, working together as sibling teams to rule the North. It wouldn't feel the same if it was a romantic relationship. Less about being Starks, then, and more about being lovers.

I think Sansa/Tyrion is still my Sansa ship of choice, even so many seasons on. Maybe more so now, since she's definitely on a more even playing field with him now. I honestly don't mind Jon/Dany, mostly because it was telegraphed from a continent away and I'm not really all that invested in either of their love lives. Though, if Jon was having chemistry with anyone in S7, I can't help but feel it was Jorah, of all people. Which, honestly, that man has no luck at all.

I also prefer Sansa with Tyrion

(Anonymous) 2018-11-15 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
I can't see Jon and Sansa as a couple because they're never on each other's level. They never pick up what the other one lays down. I'm not sure if its issue of trust, respect, and/or communication. Tyrion has shown that he actually understands Sansa. He was maybe the first person to think she was clever and a survivor when everyone, even members of her family, else had written her off as weak and stupid.

I'm a huge Sansa stan and I think Tyrion is basically the only person good enough for her in my eyes.

Re: I also prefer Sansa with Tyrion

(Anonymous) 2018-11-15 06:00 pm (UTC)(link)
"He was maybe the first person to think she was clever and a survivor when everyone, even members of her family, else had written her off as weak and stupid."

YEEEEESSSSS

Re: I also prefer Sansa with Tyrion

(Anonymous) 2018-11-15 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Sansa is fucking awesome. Her character journey is my favourite in the whole series.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2018-11-15 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
I don't ship either. I still firmly live in my AU where Jon is a Targaryen, but still a bastard, and he finds someone and settles down and has babies that become Dany's heirs while she remains an awesome, single, and yet sex-positive queen.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-15 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
S6 was peak Sansa/Jon. I wanted to like Dany/Jon (because it was beyond obvious where things were going), but it was so forced and passionless.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-15 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
I can't help but wonder if Jon is going to get killed off again, having fathered a child with Dany, and that she then reigns in her own right. Bonus points if the child is a girl.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2018-11-15 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
I hope so. If she dies and he lives and get the Iron Throne, I will be beyond pissed.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-15 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
Why? Jon would make a better leader than Dany.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2018-11-15 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
No he wouldn't. He makes a great military leader, but not a political one. He's too much like Ned. He'd get himself killed really quickly. Dany has learned how to be a better leader politically, and more importantly is much better at choosing advisors and taking advice.

Plus, given the gains that women are finally making in Westeros, it would be a really shitty message for the female heir to die so that another male heir can have the throne.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-15 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
Jon is nowhere near as trusting as Ned. He learned that lesson, literally with his life. That is what the killing of the people who killed him was all about.

Dany just burns people to death when they disagree with her. So, if you want a great dictator, she is your person. If you MUuusssttTTTT have a woman on the throne Sansa is a far better option.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-15 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not really a feminist but I hate the trope where there's a male and female character and he's the Chosen One and she's the Love Interest even though, because of her background and skills, she's just as capable, if not more so, as him of being the Hero. It is very clearly sexist.

This happening to Daenerys, especially if she stays alive just long enough to shoot out a kid and then Jon sits on the Iron Throne with an heir in place, is the only thing I truly dread for the final season. Sansa might be my favorite character and I'd rather her die than for the show to do Dany like that. Daenerys works so hard and long for everything she's got but then Jon gets to keep it all because his baby daddy was Rheagar. Fuck that.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2018-11-15 04:24 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with this completely. ALso, why did Jon have to be made legit? It would be just as satisfying for the story if he was the child of Rheagar and Leanna, but they never married.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-15 05:52 am (UTC)(link)
da

Jon is legitimate because Targaryens practiced polygyny.

I want to know why Rhaegar thought it was a good idea to have two sons named Aegon.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-15 11:51 am (UTC)(link)
I'm the person you responded to and they made Jon legitimate to make it neat and tidy. It was stupid, though. Rheagar should have had no grounds to annul his marriage to Elia. What reasoning was even used? It's bullshit and maybe what pissed me off the most about season 7. What's worse are the fans who defend it by saying shit like "there's dragons in the show but you're hung up on the legalities?" Yes, I am because the show has made legalities extremely relevant!

(Anonymous) 2018-11-15 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Pretty sure that’s not how it’s gonna go in the books, because the show explanation had plot holes you could ride a dragon through. The show, I’m guessing, didn’t want to explain Targaryen polygamy to the audience, and knew that most would accept an annulment, even if in-universe it would never have happened.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-15 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
Jon has no chemistry with anyone.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-15 03:44 am (UTC)(link)
Except at my neighborhood coffee shop, where the John Snow is one of the better frufru drinks on offer.