[ SECRET POST #4333 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4333 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

You don't redeem someone. They have to redeem themselves. They would have to WANT to change, which is unlikely. But the fact that they are probably not going to change their ways doesn't change the fact that they are capable of doing it, which means they have a possibility of redemption. There has to be a possibility of redemption for even the worst of the worst or there would never be any incentive to change their ways.

[(Anonymous)]

What could someone who has murdered 35 young boys do to redeem themselves.

Or someone like Hitler who murdered 12 million people. What could YOU see them doing to redeem themselves.

[(Anonymous)]

You're talking about redemption like it's supposed to make up for what they did or wipe it away somehow. That's not what redemption is. If someone kills someone, they go to jail or whatever punishment is seen fit - they face the consequences of their actions. Feeling sorry about it doesn't get them out of that. And it has no bearing whatsoever on whether or not I would forgive them or understand them. Being redeemed in my eyes (or anyone else's) isn't true redemption.

Redemption is about stopping them from doing more evil. It's about them accepting what they did was wrong and wanting to make amends, even if it were impossible for them to actually do it because there's no such amends that would make up for what they did. The power of redemption is the future. It's making sure they don't commit MORE terrible acts, and it doesn't absolve them from the consequences of what they've done.

[(Anonymous)]

I have never heard anyone use redemption in that way. EVER.

[(Anonymous)]

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That's how everyone I know uses it.

[(Anonymous)]

As someone below said, you and apparently everyone you know is confusing what redemption is.

[(Anonymous)]

Redemption: the act of being redeemed
Redeem: serving to offset or compensate for a defect

Sorry, but you can't redeem yourself after murdering a bunch of people. Unless they can bring those people back to life, some people are irredeemable.

^ That should be to op

[(Anonymous)]

[(Anonymous)]

Uhm... Up until today I thought everybody used it that way, and it never occurred to me people would define it differently.

[chamonix]

I just wanted to say I really resonate with the compassionate approach here and feel it's something that isn't particularly trendy now, but I agree with everything you've expressed in your posts.

It's very hard respond to something monstrous with compassion, but that is what will ultimately make us better people.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, a theological answer is that all beings are God, and will, in the grand cycles of time, become Her. So if that person were to truly see the error of their ways, take refuge, and engage in renunciation, they would be a little bit closer to Her than if they didn't.

That isn't a "get out of consequences free" card, and maybe a less fortunate rebirth is part of those consequences. But the rules apply to everyone and if they bring me closer to Her, it's not my place to judge whether they do for anyone else.

[(Anonymous)]

What?

[(Anonymous)]

Trendy " I say god is female so I don't have to be coherent" woo-speak.

[(Anonymous)]

Pshht. Get outta here. If "all beings are god", this would be more accurately rephrased "all being is god". The distinctions that we draw are illusory, including those between good and evil; being itself is One.