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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-11-14 05:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #4333 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4333 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2018-11-15 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
But there are degrees here. Fictional characters often do reference things in the real world. If you have an elf in a fantasy novel named Badolf Bitler the Elf Hitler, the writing's kind of on the wall, you know? And then you have degrees where the comparison gets more and more distant, and less and less explicit, and that changes how you answer the question.

But it's still a useful comparison to make sometimes, and I think asking whether a fantasy expy of Hitler could be redeemed might be one of those times - it's useful to figure out where people draw the line and what we're talking about here. And that's the question AYRT actually asked. It's a valid question.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-15 03:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I’m none of the anons in this thread, but writing a redeemed actual-Hitler seems easy to plot out—just have him go to art school instead of into politics, or get killed saving an army buddy in WWI, or something.

But as people elsewhere in the thread pointed out, at that point, if you changed his name he wouldn’t be all that recognisable as Hitler. To redeem actual Hitler from advocating for and ordering the slaughter of millions of innocent people via fiction is probably never gonna happen. Sure, some people might read an epic six book saga about reanimated Hitler’s journey of atonement and come out of it thinking he’d been redeemed, but at that point you’d still be talking about one version of fictional Hitler and a small subset of the people who read those books.