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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-11-14 05:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #4333 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4333 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2018-11-15 06:40 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT.

...okay, I'm actually really happy about this response even though I'm ambivalent in my agreement with it. Because I have seen and read (and for that matter played in really-small-community-theater-and-school-play-productions-of) a LOT of versions of A Christmas Carol... and all I can say is that there are A LOT of reads on the exact shape of Scrooge's crimes and for that matter how other people in his life were affected by them. And that that is peak fandom even before fandom was A Thing.

And... likewise, IRL when the audience is society, sometimes the repentance-and-atonement-arc (as in your example of a cannibalistic serial rapist) means that that person accepts that they don't ever get to rejoin society and that all they can do is (as someone elsewhere in the thread described) e.g., try to help fellow inmates (whose crimes may allow them to rejoin society) be less worse when they get out.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-15 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Which is all great, but is not a redemption arc as it is generally understood by humans. This entire thread is about redemption arcs, not feels bad for what they did arcs.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-15 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I think we're back around to a semantics argument, because I do actually think that the things that are colloquially called "redemption arcs" are probably better described as "repentance and/or atonement arcs".