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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-11-15 07:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #4334 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4334 ⌋

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[personal profile] feotakahari 2018-11-16 06:36 am (UTC)(link)
This take is bad enough that I don’t want to leave it on its own, so here’s one of the more varied response chains I found: http://storitellerb.tumblr.com/post/144172199770/a-remake-without-an-original

(Anonymous) 2018-11-16 04:11 pm (UTC)(link)
That is the most awful Hot Take I've ever seen.

Undertale was made as a commentary about how we mindlessly slaughter enemy monsters because we're supposed to, and they're never given stories because, "Well, they're monsters!" So it gave monsters a story of oppression, because that's largely what they are in a lot of stories. Hell, orcs began as racist stereotypes of black people, IIRC (and they do resemble the racist caricature of tribal Africa), and it's kind of telling that drow are dark-skinned and evil to their Inherently Good fair-skinned cousins (and are also matriarchal).

Undertale had the audacity to go, "But why does it have to be this way? Why can't there be a route that explores monsters as oppressed groups striking back out of fear and wariness because humans have been so awful to them? And then give you the option to work peacefully through things?" It's noted to me that in this Hot Take, the idea of forgiveness, which is touted anywhere and everywhere (especially by a large number of people who fall in very -ist categories) is no longer valid when we're talking about Lesser People.