[ SECRET POST #4337 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4337 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[type_wild]

I've tried reading the books ever since this little snippet of a crossover fic that I loved to pieces. I'm still stuck at 1/3 through the first one, but I can't tell what exactly the problem is.

[(Anonymous)]

My problem is that it didn't make any sense. That one police detective kept using money from her meager budget to hire Dresden as a consultant, but then dismissing everything he said out of hand. Why did she even bother hiring him if she didn't have enough faith in his abilities to listen to him?

And then there was that one guy who was always trying to catch Dresden doing something wrong. Somehow he managed to pay close enough attention to Dresden to know every single time he did magic, yet somehow not close enough attention to see the context.

Dresden also regularly excused his own chauvinism as "being a gentleman." I will never understand why these books are so popular.

[(Anonymous)]

Nerdy white dudes who wish they had a big staff, magical powers and a hot half vamp girlfriend. That's why they're popular.

[kamino_neko]

Half vampire? I gave up on the series halfway through the third one*, so I guess I never got to her introduction. How does that work?

* I may have been able to stick it out if it weren't first person narration - I liked the world (aside from the wizards are techbane, which is one of my pet peeve tropes) and a couple of the other characters (Bob, Murphy)...but being stuck inside Dresden's head for the whole thing just was not for me. (Due to the aforementioned chauvinism and a general pompousness.)

[(Anonymous)]

NYART SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS

His human girlfriend Susan (the reporter) ends up getting captured by vampires that Harry is fighting and turned. However, since she's never drank human blood, (or something like that, it's been a while since I read the books) she doesn't fully turn - and won't as long as she never gives in to the temptation to drink from a human. She leaves and moves to South America or something to be with other, non murderous vampires to prevent herself from fully transforming. She and Harry kinda end up having a bittersweet on again off again thing.

[kamino_neko]

Thanks. See, this is the kind of worldbuilding that kind of makes me wish that Harry (and Butcher, apparently) was less insufferable.

[osidiano]

Oh, that means you didn't get to the part where he has to fight a demon naked, & the gal who bullied him into a date accidentally drinks a love potion and tries to get him to bang by literally grabbing him by the dick & saying "Your mouth says no but THIS says yes."

Or the part where the "cutesy" "hardass" police lieutenant who looked like she could have been a cheerleader cries at a crime scene because Dresden (who is now a suspect in the murders) won't tell her everything he's found out.

And you haven't met the bisexual sex addict prostitute who is "attractive, but not unduly so" WHATEVER THE HELL THAT MEANS but apparently it "revved [Dresden's] engines."

... I finished the book last week because I promised a friend I would & oh god do I regret it. If you want magic-user who helps the police solve murders & deals with the supernatural, read the early Anita Blake books instead; they came out the same year & are WAAAAAY better.

[(Anonymous)]

In absolute fairness to people who've read the series, the first few books are notably worse than the rest of the series.

The rest of the series still isn't great, and the same elements remain present, but Butcher does get better at disguising them.

[(Anonymous)]

NARYT but do you have a recommendation for a book to start with, then? I don't care about spoilers (and the first one seemed to start off in the middle of some plots anyway). I just want to see what the fuss is, since the concept seems interesting.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT, but Grave Peril, the 3rd book, is the usually recommended start point if you want to start off with the book that kicked off much of the series' running storylines.

[(Anonymous)]

I made it as far as the scene in the bar where he describes the reporter lady as attractive about five times in as many pages and we get a gem about Dresden being too much of a gentleman to look down her shirt...except then he does it anyway.

[(Anonymous)]

SA oh and a whole paragraph about how women were just nastier and more bitter than men so the murderer was probably a woman/witch. Gag me.