[ SECRET POST #4337 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4337 ⌋

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Comments

[philstar22]

All of this. I was bullied severely. I still have PTSD from it. Snape still chose to use a slur. Whether or not Snape had those views before coming to Hogwarts, he did at the time he used that word to refer to Lily. And he never really is shown changing his view points other than him still caring about Lily enough that his friends threatening her made him mad about that. Even his help of Dumbledore was all about Lily. People talk about there being no evidence of James changing, but in fact in my opinion it is Snape we have no evidence actually changed perspectives.

And, also, Snape was a freaking bully himself. I was bullied as much by teachers as by peers. You want to know which was scarier and which was more traumatizing for me?

Snape is a nuanced character, don't get me wrong. he wasn't out and out evil. But he was a terrible person who made some terrible choices, and I get really tired of people excusing everything he does.

[(Anonymous)]

Snape being a bully to his students is something I just cannot rationalize or defend. I can understand liking Snape and thinking he's a great character but making fun of a 15 year old girl's looks right to her face and trying to kill one of his student's pets is simply inexcusable.

I don't know what kind of person you need to be think that's any where near the realm of understandable behavior.

[(Anonymous)]

None of this is excusing what he did. I'm tired of the line being trotted the fuck out whenever someone points out anything like this.

I do think James changed. I just don't think it fully took effect until after school and it still burns my biscuits we never once hear of him apologizing to Snape when one of James' own friends could have gotten Snape fucking killed in their childhood (see: the fucking Whomping Willow incident, which was Snape wanting some retribution for his own bullying going unanswered because the Marauders were the darlings of the student body and he wanted them to lose some of that gleam they had--that untouchableness). James saved him then, and that was probably the beginning of the turning point for him (tho timeline wise the underwear incident is AFTER that), because murder is different from bullying and the fact that Remus could even get into the tunnel at all that night says someone had to let him loose to do so since I recall Remus being otherwise chained the fuck down. But he still didn't once look at Snape and go, "Listen, I was a real bag of dicks to you, and I understand you hate me. I'm still sorry I was awful to you. No one deserves what we put you through." That is my beef with James tbh.

(Tho this begins another rant about how people put Sirius Black on a pedestal when he always, ALWAYS had the most skewed moral compass in the world. HE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN A BETTER PARENT FOR HARRY, HE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN THE KID FUCKING KILLED.)

Snape did terrible fucking things. Nothing excuses that! I'm still tired of all the "he was clearly the worst always and forever despite one of the Marauders outright trying to fucking kill him via his supposed friend who wouldn't be in his right mind."

[(Anonymous)]

If it makes you feel better, everyone agrees that Severus was much, much better at murdering innocent people than Sirius was. Sirius turned out to be pants at actually slaughtering the innocent, despite having the type of abusive childhood that gives you a free murder pass if you’re Snape. Sev, on the other hand, was an absolute champ at it.

[(Anonymous)]

How many people did Severus personally kill? Because he didn't even want to kill Dumbledore despite being asked to by the man.

[(Anonymous)]

Can you like, calm down.

[philstar22]

Okay. Most of this is right. But that was not what this discussion was about. The secret was about Snape having prejudices before. THe discussion was about Snape having done terrible things that can't be justified. To bring up James and the bullying was off topic and added nothing to the conversation. Yes, James and co were terrible. They were bullies. That doesn't change the converation any and doesn't excuse anything Snape did.