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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-11-19 06:09 pm

[ SECRET POST #4338 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4338 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Criminal Minds, S02E22 "Legacy"]


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[The Missing: J.J. Macfield and the Island of Memories]


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[The House With a Clock in Its Walls]


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[Rebecca, by Daphne du Maurier]


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[Dragonriders of Pern series by Anne McCaffrey]


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[BuzzFeed Unsolved, Shane Madej and Ryan Bergara]


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[Parks and Rec]
















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Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2018-11-20 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
I've never heard of that, I'll have to look it up! It would probably be under true crime though, because there's nothing actually supernatural just general government assholishness.

TBH I'm actually the opposite with space stuff, particularly some of the things they've done relating to aliens. I liked the Phoenix Lights episode because that was based on something that had actual evidence, but seeing them do episodes on Roswell/ancient aliens I was like...really?

I'd like to see them do more historical mysteries - like I mentioned, there's the Princes in the Tower, but there's also stuff like the Voynich Manuscript, the Legio IX Hispana, things like that.

With you on how repetitive Supernatural can be. There's only so many ways you can vary "Ghoul boys go to dark location at night, Ryan freaks out while Shane trolls ghosts, spoopy scurry spirit box" before shit gets old. It doesn't help that I already have a low tolerance for paranormal stuff (#Shaniac4Lyfe).

I'd like to see them do more location shooting for True Crime stuff like they did for Keddie Cabin or Jack the Ripper.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2018-11-20 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
da

oh man I pretty much have to skip through the alien episodes because Ryan tests my patience so much in those, it's one thing to be a believer, but it's another entirely to be willfully ignorant about basic scientific facts and after this long it's gotten... aggravating.

the ghost stuff i can pass off a bit because i can at least see where he's coming from with hearing noises or sounds, even if i think he's reaching beyond belief for 'evidence' most of the time, that and in some cases i find his freaking-out adorable and funny.

but ia that there's only so long you can do the spooky stuff before it's repetitive, tbh i've found the current season a bit dull because there just really hasn't been a lot going on, i think the ep in the mansion and the on in the church were the only two i found enjoyable, all the others have just been, eh. i think we've been getting real glimpses into just how boring these late-night location shoots must really be, lol.

i've honestly been looking forward to the post-mortems more because the banter between them is great in those.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2018-11-20 04:47 am (UTC)(link)
Secret OP

Yeah I love Ryan but sometimes I just want to slap him upside the head and tell him to calm down. I haven't even watched the Tombstone or Pentagon UFO videos because I'd be bored during the former and yelling at Ryan during the latter.

If they went to more visually interesting locations that might be interesting - places that are naturally creepy like the Isle of Dolls episode. Because it really doesn't help that the interiors of most places they visit seem to fall into between three categories of "long industrial hallways" "wilderness" and "someone's house". What I'd really love to see them do is an actual honest-to-God ritual like Hide and Seek with Yourself or Hyakumonogatari Kaidankai, or what they did with Bloody Mary for the Voodoo episode. Something where they're actually doing something to invoke the supernatural/spiritual beyond yelling in an empty room.

I know the True Crime episodes are mocked as "glorified Power Points" but at least they're interesting Power Points. And let's face it 90% of the reason we all come to watch this show is because of the Shane-Ryan banter lol.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2018-11-20 05:08 am (UTC)(link)
da

oh the tombstone ep was so dull, i had it on in the background and it couldn't keep my attention for long at all, just a whole lot of nothing outside of the factual information, which was interesting to me for that because i didn't know anything about that incident.

the pentagon episode was just... would it kill you to open a science book once in a while Ryan? lol. but then I think this during a lot of the supernatural eps tbh.

i loved the goat-man bridge episode because it was genuinely funny and they were doing something, but ia just going into a house or building is a bit old and even the two eps i did like it was little moments rather than the whole lot.

yeah i don't get the hate for them, there's a lot of talking sure but then it's Shane and Ryan theorising together which is really fun! and as you said: the reason we watch the show is for their banter. plus seeing Ryan using the wackier theories is always fun because they annoy Shane. :P

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2018-11-20 05:37 am (UTC)(link)
Secret OP

Seriously they need to bring a scientist on sometime, like a psychologist who can discuss stuff like confirmation bias or subjective validation. Or someone who can talk about hallucinations/sleep paralysis to explain why people might see/experience weird things. We've already had priests, paranormal investigators and the fucking Ancient Aliens guy on the show, I don't think this is an unreasonable request.

Shane does his best but he needs backup :P

Everyone loves the goat-man bridge episode, it's Shane dancing on a bridge declaring victory over a demon while Ryan runs around threatening it with a watergun filled with holy water. That's the entire fucking appeal of the supernatural episodes in a nutshell. I don't want twenty minutes of two guys sitting in a dark room listening to bad Skrillex I want twenty minutes of two dumbasses running around trying to stir up spooky shit.

I'm a true crime buff, so I find those episodes really interesting! Esp when they don't just talk about the crime itself but the history and culture surrounding the crime, like how they talked about the Cleveland Torso Killer.

NGL by the end of the Cleveland Killer episode I was like "How the fuck has this not been made into a movie"

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2018-11-20 04:16 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt(should have put this in the last reply, oops :P).

tbh i think Shane is hindered a little by not knowing much about science/biology himself and thus can't refute Ryan's reaches with actual facts, because i sit there all the time going 'you have no idea how fucky the human brain is do you Ryan?' when he starts talking about how 'impossible' it is for people to hear/see things that aren't there.

i love him but i get annoyed by people who try to pass off their flimsy beliefs as 100% fact.

but yeah they need an actual expert in sometimes because there really is completely rational explanations to most of the 'evidence' they have. that and someone needs to explain how space-travel and FTL actually works to the both of them because yeesh.

exactly! it was probably their best supernatural episode because they were doing what we love best, trying to antagonize ghosts, and it was great fun. the spirit-box is a joke tbh and i have no idea why they keep bringing it out as though it as any scientific credence, it makes noise and sometimes you get partial words if you believe in it hard enough because it always sounds like garbled static to me.

oh yeah the history aspect is what is fun about those episodes, i really enjoy when they dig into it all especially when the suspect pool is so twisty and bonkers.

oh totally, like that case was just, jfc i never knew about it and it sounds like it was horrifying to live-through and ia with your surprise that no ones tried to make that into a movie.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2018-11-21 07:25 am (UTC)(link)
Secret OP (lol are you even still reading this thread IDK)

Well yeah that's kind of the blessing and the curse of the show; they're just two film guys going around to spooky places and discussing crimes. On one hand that makes them really relatable, but at the same time it means they've got some pretty big knowledge gaps particularly related to science. That's why "Damn the wind's strong tonight" is a meme, because there probably are rational/scientific explanations for noises/apparitions but because Shane isn't really versed in psychology/acoustics/engineering/whatever he can't offer viable alternatives to GHOSTIES.


I think they just bring the spirit box along for the sake of views, because the fandom really seems to love how it spews out random shit that can be interpreted as words (APPLE TATERS) and because it's fun to watch Shane get annoyed. I still don't even get how tf it's supposed to work like...it's a glorified radio scanner? And somehow ghosts have the power to manipulate it? This is where having a scientist would come in handy because they could come in and explain exactly how the spirit box works and why it's bullshit.

Seriously you get Josh Brolin as Eliot Ness, Steve Buscemi as Dr. Sweeney, maybe Ed Harris as Martin L. Sweeney that's fucking cinematic gold.