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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-08-24 05:27 pm

[ SECRET POST #597 ]


⌈ Secret Post #597 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 21 pages, 502 secrets from Secret Submission Post #086.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - personal attack ], [ 1 - what ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Re: 163

[identity profile] jlh.livejournal.com 2008-08-25 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't say you were being mean; I said you were being snide. I also think you're being condescending, by implying that all these people that "misread" your secret are doing so for reasons other than that your secret wasn't clear. Only if one was in Heroes fandom (which 80% of the people reading your secret aren't) might one know that the "snide" comments of which you speak are about sexuality, rather than the way you put it, which is that people making snide comments of any nature have a "problem with female sexuality."

I wasn't being defensive, since not only do I not bash the other women, but I don't think I've ever written anything about Heroes. I was merely pointing out that there were reasons to dislike Maya. If you think making a comment was being defensive, then you know, rock on with that. I didn't feel defensive until you replied to me and called me defensive and said I misread your secret. Now, I'm just irritated with you for your un-earned tone of superiority.

Elsewhere you said that everyone who had a problem with your secret was a Mylar shipper, when I explicitly said that I'm not—to the extent that I am a shipper in a show I don't like much. I could give a shit that Maya fucked Sylar, because I could give a shit about Sylar.

Elsewhere you also said that no one who has a problem with Maya has a problem with the male characters, when I explicitly said in my reply that I had no time for Maya's brother. So please stop putting me in whatever bucket you've got going here.

Again, not in your fandom.

Re: 163

(Anonymous) 2008-08-25 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
If you're not in the fandom, why are you even responding to the secret?

The secret says "People who bash Maya + people who bash other women = sexist". I'm condescending because a bunch of people did get the point of the secret, and almost everyone else who's responded is so over the top defensive it's hilarious.

Re: 163

[identity profile] jlh.livejournal.com 2008-08-25 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's YOU that hasn't been on [livejournal.com profile] fandomsecrets very long. Why post a secret on a multi-fandom board if you only want people who are in the fandom to respond to the secret? That seems to me the entire point of this community. If you don't want non fandomers to reply, why not find/start some Heroes secret community?

I'm still not seeing why you should be condescending to me. I don't think my original statement was defensive; I was just saying that I didn't like Maya much and I wasn't sure what it had to do with Mylar, since I'm not a Mylar shipper. What you might have said was, "I can see you're not in fandom. A lot of the Maya-haters are Mylar shippers and think she'll get in the way of their ship." Until I saw your picture (which I assume is a still from next season?) I didn't know anything about Maya snogging Mohinder. Now, if the entire Mylar thing was a red herring to be obnoxious, then so sorry that I didn't realize it was a joke.

I don't care about Heroes, or Maya, or Mohinder, or Sylar. But I won't be condescended to because I lacked knowledge not in evidence.

Re: 163

[identity profile] slytherincesss.livejournal.com 2008-08-25 04:13 am (UTC)(link)
As well, one does not have to "be in fandom" proper for something to be educated or well-versed about it. I mean, my fandom is Harry Potter. but I watch a ton of TV and I read a lot. I watch Heroes and have seen every episode, probably twice actually, and while I'm not in Heroes fandom, I can really get behind your thoughts on Maya. She is not a compelling character; nor is Sylar. I don't think I have to be in the Heroes fandom to qualify that opinion as informed or valid.

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