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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-11-24 03:32 pm

[ SECRET POST #4343 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4343 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2018-11-24 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
monotheism: yes

dogma: no

the jewish approach to the text, belief, works, etc is completely different from the christian idea of dogma/doctrine. judaism has no centralized authority, places minimal importance on "faith" or personal relationtionships with the divine, and is concerned with behavior more than dogma. Qhile protestants exist now, the model for "the important thing about religion is having faith and correct beliefs" set by the papacy for 1000 years is still critical to the vast majority of christian communities and to christian interpretive thought,

and the Islamic hybrid revelatory/legal criticism tradition is somewhere in between them. Christianity and Islam, as proselytizing religions with major salvific and afterlife-centric elements of their theology revolving around professing faith have far more in common than either of those two have with judaism. And islam, with the specific duties of the 5 pillars and the argumentative traditions of the legal schools, has more in common with judaism than christianity does.

judeo-christian is a thing that christians and cultural christians want to say either to give christianity antiquity points by association, or to feel inclusive/sound PC/sound not-sectarian while actually only talking about christian ideas and practices, and just assuming out of ignorance that they apply in judaism too, because they're both monotheistic and it's ~the same god~ and the torah is "the jewish bible" right? (no)

And/or because they consider jews white enough to be worth of lip service inclusion.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-24 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah tell that to Orthodox Jews lol

(Anonymous) 2018-11-24 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
seconded

(Anonymous) 2018-11-24 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
They only try to recruit other Jews, though, they have no interest in anyone else. Islam and Christianity are after everybody!

(Anonymous) 2018-11-25 12:24 pm (UTC)(link)




I have literally had Orthodox Jews try to recruit me, dude

(Anonymous) 2018-11-25 05:02 pm (UTC)(link)
If your religion has a text, and tells you how to behave, and tells you to only believe in one god... your religion has dogma, end of.

At any rate, you also seem to be assuming your personal relationship with Judaism is the same as anyone else's. You're conveniently not speaking for conservative and Orthodox Jews.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-25 05:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Also: the idea that dogma in Christianity was ever monolithic is simply untrue. Even before the Protestant Reformation. There's basically no point in the history of Christianity where dogma was a single unitary thing. It was always compromised and argued-over and negotiated.