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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-11-27 06:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #4346 ]


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(Anonymous) 2018-11-28 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
I'll take it even if it's just the setting and the vibe. The actual plot of Stoker's story isn't great tbh, but I want the gothiness and sexiness and terror.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-28 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know. I like the basic plot of the story, edited down a little for film.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-28 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
I don't hate the plot of the original novel. I do dislike how much of it relies on Idiot Ball. But I think it's kind of difficult to adapt it for movies/TV because it's a little disjointed between the part in Transylvania and the rest of the story in England. And I think it's kind of well-worn at this point. The Coppola version, for example, generally follows the book plot fairly closely (even if you hate Keanu Reeves).

(Anonymous) 2018-11-28 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
I don't have a quarrel with the Coppola adaptation, except for its casting. Unfortunately the casting is rather important.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-28 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
It doesn't bother me (partly because I just love Keanu Reeves) but I do understand why people have an issue with it.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-28 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
I love him and Winona Ryder, but... not in this film.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-28 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
I just want to see a remake that makes the Johnathan scenes flat out gay. That's the vibe I got in the original and that's all I want to see. I mean fuck, one of the film adaptations threw in some random lesbianism but still no m/m. We are not fucking done with vampires until we have ample live action vampire yaoi.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-28 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
I'd love a loyal adaptation that actually included all the characters and more of their little interactions. Most of what I loved about the book had nothing to do with Dracula at all, but was all about the teamwork and found family and manly crying as everyone finally started to pull together during/after what happened to Lucy. Jonathan and Mina and Van Helsing, Arthur and Seward and Quincy. All the little moments. Arthur breaking down in Mina's arms while she just hugs him. Jonathan happily listening to Van Helsing burble about how amazing his wife is. Quincy scaring the absolute bejeezus out of everyone by randomly strolling outisde in the middle of a meeting and shooting the window in because he thought he saw a bat on the windowsill (I also like the idea that he did, and it was Dracula, and he scared the absolute bejeezus out of bat!Dracula too). Mina gently pulling Van Helsing's leg with her shorthand notes. Van Helsing having a straight-up fit of cry/laugh hysterics at the graveyard when he realises what's happened to Lucy, and Dr Seward feeling some extremely Victorian discomfort over being stuck in a carriage with him while it happens. Arthur and Seward very stiffly supporting each other over both having lost the woman they love. Mina being kind to Renfield, and that being the reason Renfield helps them. Everyone being madly in love with Mina. Everybody swearing themselves to Mina's protection. Nobody being jealous of anybody else. (Seriously, Jonathan is so chill with everyone around him singing her praises, or weeping in her arms, or dying for her, in fact if he's anything he's delighted that they're all so in awe of her. Not to mention Lucy's three suitors and how not just amicable but downright caring and supportive they are of each other. It's amazing).

I miss all that so much, especially in adaptations that strip out one or more of the suitors, or adaptations that focus on putting Mina and Dracula together for a tragic romance. For real, most of what I actually liked in the book had nothing to do with Dracula himself at all.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-28 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
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(Anonymous) 2018-11-28 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
The scene where Quincy leaves the meeting to shoot bat!Dracula is my very favorite thing. I love Quincy and any adaptation that does him justice so fucking much.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-28 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
I think Quincy tends to be the one most shafted by adaptations. I went into the book expecting to hate him a bit, and then I really, really didn't, because he's genuinely warm and loyal and brave and hilarious, and he goes down like a boss and kind of breaks your heart by counting it worth it to have saved Mina, and it's really, really hard to not to love him by the end of it.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2018-11-28 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
I am 100 percent down for this movie.
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[personal profile] ninety6tears 2018-11-28 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
Haha, the Keanu Reeves shade...

(Anonymous) 2018-11-28 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
I don't need British accents to be satisfied, but the rest would be appreciated. I also agree with the person above that Bram Stoker's plot could be left behind too since I'm already very familiar with it. What matters most is matching the mood to me.

(Anonymous) 2018-11-28 10:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Uh. You know Stoker used vampirism as a metaphor for syphilis, right?

(Anonymous) 2018-11-28 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
that's way too simplistic and reductive

(Anonymous) 2018-11-29 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
Just because you heard one interesting theory from your freshman lit course or maybe tumblr doesn't mean it's the gospel truth, nonny.