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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-11-30 07:04 pm

[ SECRET POST #4349 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4349 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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03. https://i.imgur.com/W9x9FD0.png
[Tenchi Forever! The Movie, OP warned for NSFW]

























04. [SPOILERS for Doctor S11E04 "Arachnids in the UK"]



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05. [SPOILERS for Daredevil season 3]



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06. [SPOILERS for Daredevil season 3]



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07. [WARNING for incest]

[Gravity Falls]


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08. [WARNING for discussion of loli/shota and child porn]
















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[personal profile] philstar22 2018-12-01 06:49 am (UTC)(link)
I'd find it distasteful. But I really think the term CP is for real life people only. If we use it for other things, it kind of dumbs down its meaning. And while I'd personally find that manga distasteful, I'd say it isn't as bad as real life. I do think there is a level of fiction is fiction to it. I think that kink is icky (though I can see a survivor using it to cope). But it isn't real people. And honestly, I actually think that if people keep it as fiction and don't use real people, that's so much better. It might actually save some lives.

(Anonymous) 2018-12-01 11:34 am (UTC)(link)
You are completely, absolutely correct in this thread. CP is not a term that should extend to fictional characters; when words and terms start to become flexible like that, they risk -in this case- the severity of the original word/term.

Shota/loli is repulsive, but it is not harming children. This is the way I see it: pedophilia can't be stopped, and so many people don't understand that pedophiles aren't child molesters until they become child molesters. And if drawn characters of children stops them from indulging in actual CP or harming children in person (and it can), then, honestly, that needs to be viewed as a separate thing.

(Anonymous) 2018-12-01 02:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, since you seem pretty informed and advocating this issue:

What about fictional characters that are not animated. Like for example, how do you distinguish loli of the character of Eleven from Stranger Things from cp of the actual actress? Is it that one is drawn and the other would be photomanips? Do you really think it's a different experience? If someone writes shota fic of Gotham's Bruce Wayne, is that cool? Is it a visual image vs words?

What do you think pornographic content is FOR, by the way?

(Anonymous) 2018-12-01 06:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Different anon:

The difference is, could I look at that picture and think that it really portrays that actress really getting abused in reality? A drawing or painting of her that is obviously a drawing or painting, no. A very well-done photomanip, maybe.

I mean, loli is obviously cartoons. No one would mistake it for photodocumentation of an actual illegal act.

Whether someone gets off to it or not isn't the point. People get off to all sorts of things. There are certainly murder fetishists who get off to Hannibal - that doesn't make Hannibal real snuff porn. Is loli obviously aimed at people who get off to fantasies about children? Definitely, and it's gross. That doesn't make it the same thing as child porn, which requires a real child to be harmed to create.

I don't think it helps anyone to blur that distinction. I think that distinction is extremely important when it comes to matters of law enforcement and victim support. If people start calling the FBI over loli cartoons on Tumblr, that takes resources away from investigating real crimes.