[ SECRET POST #4354 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4354 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 31 secrets from Secret Submission Post #623.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Comments

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10. https://i.imgur.com/iJYJ8yD.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

We don't know if the FO is xenophobic or not, though. Except for Snoke (who is more or less ambiguously humanoid alien), there hasn't been any non-human character in the First Order's ranks.

[(Anonymous)]

... Is it without the xenophobia? I thought the First Order had the same basic view of nonhumans as the Empire had. I don't remember seeing any nonhumans among them.

Also, I think the Empire just felt like more of an implacable threat than the Order does. The Order is shouty and angry and rolling outwards, but the Empire was vast and monolithic and grey and already there. Death felt like a conveyor belt certainty with the Empire. It's still just a strong possibility with the Order.

[(Anonymous)]

to be honest, trying to take any Star Wars movie seriously as a moral or political metaphor is a mistake. they absolutely cannot sustain that weight.

[(Anonymous)]

I haven't seen the prequels but for the other films I have to agree with you. They've never been about that and their villains are more like "I'm blowing up a planet because I can and fuck you that's why."

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, don't confuse structure and quality. Star Wars is an overbaked WWII metaphor, but that's common in science fiction. Star Trek had an even worse metaphor for Vietnam.

[(Anonymous)]

Star Wars is actually also a metaphor for Vietnam: an idealistic band of guerilla fighters overcomes vast odds against a vast empire led by a megalomaniacal leader. The costume designer just wanted to make it really obvious who the bad guys are by using WWI- and WWII-inspired uniforms. (Also because he feared using contemporary styles would negatively date the film.)

[(Anonymous)]

You know you don't have to write 'Nazi' in all caps, right? It's a proper noun, not an anagram.

[(Anonymous)]

Sigh.

[(Anonymous)]

NAtionalsoZIalistische

[(Anonymous)]

Webster and just about every English stylebook in existence uses "Nazi" see also scuba, snafu, radar, and laser for other examples of de-acronymed words.

[(Anonymous)]

Still don't think that sets the bases for an acronym, though. Wouldn't you have to spell it in caps if you were only using the first letters of seperate words? I think "nazi" is more like an abbreviation, doesn't make it less of a noun.

[(Anonymous)]

Acronym, and strangely enough it is!

[(Anonymous)]

Was this intentional? XD

[(Anonymous)]

There are no Nazis in Star Wars. Nazism is a very specific ideology that doesn't exist in the GFFA.

[(Anonymous)]

This.

[(Anonymous)]

When a villain/villains are specifically meant to be fictional versions of Nazis, I think the term space-Nazi (or Nazis in space) is perfectly appropriate and accurate.

[(Anonymous)]

What about the term "space NAZIs"

[(Anonymous)]

C- for not following the style guide.

[(Anonymous)]

An analogy of Nazis regrouping and reemerging from Argentina =/= actual Nazis. Nazis are just a very efficient (and lazy) shorthand for bad guys nowadays.

Besides, JJ's analogy was flawed from the start, since the Empire was based on America circa the Vietnam War. (Which made the casting of the Tico sisters particularly poignant to me.)

[(Anonymous)]

I'm pretty sure the first order has literally blown up a higher number of planets.

That seems like a reasonable measure by which to call it "more evil."

Also, kidnapped baby slave army vs. dubiously recruited but theoretically volunteer. That's also a thing.

[(Anonymous)]

Are you talking about the first order or the Jedi there with the kidnapped baby slave army?

[(Anonymous)]

LOL GOOD CATCH

but yeah I was talking about the First Order compared specifically to the Empire

the jedi can fuck a cactus tbh