[ SECRET POST #4354 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4354 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

14. https://i.imgur.com/uJ9Fx0u.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

...what kind of Anita Sarkeesian BS?

[(Anonymous)]

1/10

+1

[(Anonymous)]

Thanks, anon!

[morieris]

That......is a way to put that.

Ron is my favorite character but IA that he was never quite fit to marry anyone. The last-minute attempt to force some real love between him and Hermione in Book 7 with the "She's being tortured and I realize I love her" . No, but I guess since Hermione is JKR's self-insert, that's who she wanted to marry.

[(Anonymous)]

Except Rowling married a Harry? And Ron clearly fancied Hermione as far back as CoS?

+10000000

[(Anonymous)]

At least to your point about Ron's infatuation with Hermione being evident as least as early as Chamber of Secrets.

[(Anonymous)]

Being a woman doesn't make a person a great feminist or a great writer of female characters, though. A lot of women have internalized toxic messages about women, how they should act, what role they ought to take in platonic and romantic relationships, etc. Look at Stephenie Meyer.

I also don't think it's particularly OOC for Rowling. She likes to Tweet a good game when it comes to being woke but remember, she's 100% okay with Johnny Depp's track record of domestic violence.

[(Anonymous)]

+1, this

[(Anonymous)]

Hard agree. Female showrunners still pull the same "and then every woman has a baby/babies!" crap that male showrunners do. Except we criticise men for not being more imaginative while screaming "she's so feminist" at women and I'm sick of it.
Also sick of Depp and people continuing to cast him (and Mel Gibson and several others) in their movies.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think that's an entirely fair reading of the books but OK

[(Anonymous)]

Same.

[(Anonymous)]

It's sad when women who claim to be feminists see a female character whose intelligence is valued by her male friends and often relied on for help in hard situations, and think she's only being taken advantage of.

[(Anonymous)]

They rarely if ever tell her they value her intelligence, though, much less her friendship apart from what she does for them. They look to her when they need something, then rarely thank her, then go back to doing whatever they want without actually trying to be a decent friend back to her.

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, they've all saved each others' lives multiple times (they rescued her from a troll, they used her research about petrification to figure out the CoS thing). Just because they didn't help HER academically doesn't mean they were not good friends (barring the tiffs they ALL had with each other - Ron and Harry anyone?) or that they weren't grateful for her help?

[(Anonymous)]

THIS.

[(Anonymous)]

I could quote the books at you but. fff, go back and reread.

Ron straight up says "I love you Hermione" bc she helps him with homework, Harry and Ron always show their appreciation to her in a way they don't even do to each other except in life or death situations.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm guessing you don't have any real friends because you play this tit-for-tat game, dude. Because this is a stupidly unhealthy way to view things.

Either that or you're a troll.

[(Anonymous)]

Not only but also: I think Hermione does Ron and Harry more of a disservice when she does their homework than they do her by letting her. I get really sick of the St. Hermione of fandom. She could say no when they ask her for help. Given how ~intelligent and ~mature she is, she should know that she's not really helping when she does things for them. Maybe it's just me, but I read her motives as 1) really liking to do homework, 2) wanting a platform to boss the boys around, and 3) wanting to keep the ledger constantly balanced so that she's done more for them than vice versa. I love Hermione, but she is a bossy, manipulative little authoritarian.

[(Anonymous)]

It's only homework

[(Anonymous)]

there's a theory that saving her from the troll put her into a life debt magical bond with Harry and Ron. Meaning, she can't say no. Literally. Being mature and intelligent won't help with this. If they ask her to do something, she "has" to do it.

Which is pretty fucked up. Not canon stated but given how magic seems to work in the universe, possibly true.

[(Anonymous)]

Now this is a hot take

[(Anonymous)]

JKR's pretty contemptuous of women, both in-text (Ginny, Molly and Hermione constantly criticise other girls/women for ridiculous reasons, and the girls presented as the best tend to be those who are one of the boys - look at how Cho or Lavender or Pansy, all of whom are associated with having groups of girl friends, are portrayed) and in interviews (note her calling out celebutantes for being poor role models and brainless, while giving Johnny Depp, actual criminal, a pass.) so I'd expect nothing less, tbh.

[(Anonymous)]

I... I always found every single female character in HP unbearably annoying and I never realized this is the reason why. Holy fuck, anon, you are SO right.

[(Anonymous)]

That might not be the only explanation though