[ SECRET POST #4354 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4354 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Spike was unquestionably better than Angel as boyfriend material. No-Soul!Angel is a monster who wants to torture Buffy and everyone she loves. No-Soul!Spike goes off and gets a soul even though he already loves her without one. I'm so sick of Spike getting shit and Angel getting a pass or ignored entirely.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree, most people look at me like I'm insane when I say that.

[(Anonymous)]

To be fair, that's due to meta circumstances rather than solid characterization. No-Soul!Spike was a murderous dickbag in the beginning, too; that was the original template for the vamps in the first few seasons. That was what having no soul meant. All vampires were sadistic monsters who ate people. Angel losing his curse = actually acting like a vampire, just like early Spike.

But because everybody liked Marsters and wanted to keep him around, they had to tweak what "being a vampire" meant to get Spike to be able to become a Scooby. And Boreanaz left for his spinoff, which did give Angel better development in the long run, just not while around Buffy. So he didn't get the same opportunity of prolonged character evolution in the same setting, according to the same rules. It's apples and oranges.

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DA

This is a very good point.

[philstar22]

This is mostly true. I'd still argue that at both of their very worst, Angelus was still miles worse than soulless Spike. Even from the beginning, Spike was able to love. His devotion to Drusilla was a good thing (as evidenced by the Judge). Angelus was genuinely terrifying.