[ SECRET POST #4358 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4358 ⌋

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Comments

[liz_marcs]

I think it came down to "how often do you post."

The pornbot follow avalanche would happen every time I posted something original. Not reblogs or likes. I might get one or two a month in that case. But posting something original? YIKES! It got to the point that I stopped posting entirely because I didn't want to deal with it.

I never stumbled across child porn myself because my fandom tags were tightly currated and NONE of them involved a YA fandom or a fandom aimed at young 'uns. My understanding is that the child porn stuff would show up in tags for fandom things that targeted YA. At least, that's the impression I get from people.

The white supremecist stuff tended to show up in the 'Community" tag. As a result, a lot of Community fandom started adding more specific tags, like "Community_NBC" or "Community_TV" to drill it down to the fandom, and that did seem to work.

So, I think you're very much right, at least for stumbling across stuff in the tags. It kind of comes down to tightly controlling tags and currating your expereience. Not much of a problem for fandom oldsters like you and me because we've been around the block a few times. But for young 'uns with limited experience in fandom or complete fandom no0bs? Yeah. That's going to come as a bit of a shock.

I liken it to my own young 'un days in fandom, where the only way to get your hands on fanfiction was to actually BUY fanzines (internet did not exist). There were more than a few times that I bought fanzines and conventions (where I was CLEARLY under 18), only to take them home and find out they were PORN, PORN, PORN, PORN and not at all what they were advertized on the tin.

I wasn't traumatized or anything, but when you're going through puberty and everything is embarassing, it made me gun-shy about fandom participation until there was an Internet that allowed me to currate my own experience. Yes, even in the wild, ugly days of Usenet, it WAS possible to do that.

The pornbots, though. Those were a plague. And it seems like once you got on the radar of one, you got on a radar of a lot of them.

[tabaqui]

That could be, then. I only posted original stuff once or twice, and i never had any sort of notifications turned on, so if/when people followed me, I'd only know if I actually went looking when i was on Tumblr (and right now, I could not tell you how many followers I have or how many people I'm following).

I really only used tags to blacklist stuff. Certain actors, 'ships, etc., that i wasn't interested in, and a couple people who posted amazingly uninteresting and way-to-frequent navel-gazing stuff between fandom posts that, lucky for me, that tagged in some way that made it easy to blacklist.

I'm not *quite* as old as all that - although, actually, i guess I *am*, i just had no clue fanfic and fanzines existed, and didn't find out about them until i was online (in the early early nineties). And then, heh, i was deliberately *looking* for porn of any kind, m/m porn specifically, because i was sick of m/f stuff *and* sick of the gay characters in 'pro' fic always dying, being unhappy, or being alone.

I did use tags on Tumblr a couple times to attempt to find some x-rated m/m fanart, and...almost nothing turned up, which was so very weird.

It's a pity that 'the internet is for porn' and yet, so many people are out there shoving porn into places it doesn't need to be. There are *so many places* you can go get porn, please get the fuck out of my gorgeous photos of Lisbon on a rainy spring morning! (or, you know, whathaveyou....)

[(Anonymous)]

Most platforms specifically dedicated to porn are not designed for, like, human social interaction, and also have cultures that are usually tailored towards (a) the commercial porn industry and (b) toxic masculinity in ways that aren't great.

Theoretically, it should be possible to build a dedicated porn site that incorporates the good features of Tumblr, but it would be really expensive (because you have to pay for all the image and video hosting) and no one's done it and it would probably get taken over by porn bots and dudebros anyway.

[tabaqui]

Heh. Possibly.
I did look in on a couple very pretty, explict-but-not-xxx Tumblrs with bondage images and/or nudes (and a couple super-explict, xxx pages, too). The tags were always extremely explicit to what you were seeing, never anything weird or random.

So, some people seemed to manage it, and maybe it was only because they kept a tight rein on things and/or tags? I really don't know.

[liz_marcs]

Yeah, this was the other weird thing about Tumblr. Some people seemed to get hit harder than others. Some people never got hit at all.

I mean, I'm not opposed to porn on Tumblr (in general, I mean), and for me it was a case of just not wanting it on my feed in case I'm scrolling through on my phone in a public place.

That is the thing that was so mystifying. I never did porn searches on Tumblr because I didn't want a porn search algorithm attached to my user name. Not that it helped. Sheesh.

Still not sure how I got nailed by pornbots like I did. By the time I started using Tumblr I was only somewhat active in fandom, and Community wasn't a terribly big fandom at that. So my profile was not all that big. I could understand if I was a BNF or even an MNF (middle-name fan) even in a small-ish fandom, but I wasn't. Just pretty much a minimally active fan. Go figure.

[tabaqui]

I actually went and looked at my followers (wow, more than i thought!) and it looks like some of them *are* porn blogs or whatever. But I never followed them back and I don't *see* them....

I'd be surprised if they were all still there? Unless the 'Tumblr Purge' is just scattershot and weird. I'm not clicking on anything to find out, though, heh.