[ SECRET POST #4362 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4362 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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07. https://i.imgur.com/RLCWFm3.png
[OP suggested a warning for "partial nudity and er... bulge"]














Notes:

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Comments

Re: Based on 4

[(Anonymous)]

I love certain kinds of villain/hero(ine) ships—basically, ones where the canon villain has something to offer their partner as a person—not just being hot, or ruthless, but sharing interests with or having skills that the hero admires, or caring for someone/something (henchmen/fellow villains/pets/their grandma/their robot butler...) other than the hero.

I get annoyed when people ship hero/villain pairs where the canon villain doesn’t have any positive qualities, aside from maybe hotness, so individual fans, or worse, entire fandoms, make shit up.

If you want your remorseless villain who skinned his grandma, eats puppies, electrocutes his henchmen, destroys fellow villains, dismantled his robot butler, and whose only hobbies are torture and admiring himself in mirrors to fuck the hero, fine. But I’m not gonna buy that the hero’s gonna fall in love with the villain and the villain’s gonna adopt a kitten and start baking homemade bread for his henchmen unless a) you’re writing a crack fic or b) the villain had some positive traits in canon to start with.

Re: Based on 4

[philstar22]

This I mostly agree of. I have exactly one example where I think it works because there is some (non-sexual) seduction going on in canon, but only in a brainwashy sense or the author somehow manages to convince me the villain has gone good (which has not happened so far).

Re: Based on 4

[chamonix]

Agree! There has to be some shades of grey. I like my villains conflicted!

Re: Based on 4

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT—I like conflicted villains, too, but that’s a different thing than what I was talking about here. If a villain agonizes before every puppy sandwich he eats or cries as she murders her family, I may actually loathe them more than villains that straight up relish being evil, unless the reason they cry over having to eat puppies is that otherwise they’d have to eat human babies and if they did they’d lose the last of their humanity and not see anything wrong with either, and the reason they murder their family is their mom, dad, and little sister have been eating human babies the whole time.

Villains who agonize over doing evil things and still do them every time, not because they’re trying to save their kid/husband/the last unprotected rainforest, but because they want power to do more evil, basically come across as insane(ly creepy) to me. “I’m doing horrific stuff to save/reunite with/protect someone/something I love” = probably gonna ship them with the hero.

“I’m sorry dad but I have to kill you to further my gleeful revenge plot/because otherwise I’ll never become the all powerful dark emperor of the galaxy” = haha FOAD.

Re: Based on 4

[(Anonymous)]

I can get down with the latter if the dad needed killin'

Re: Based on 4

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT—well, yeah, hence my “villain cries as they eat puppy sandwiches because the alternative is human babies, then cries more as they kill their family who give no fucks about eating toddler tartare” example.

If a villain is killing/defrauding/torturing in order to find out what happened to their long lost sibling/child/dog, that’s different than killing their sibling/child/dog because they need to destroy their last links to humanity to become all-powerful, or they need their kid’s spleen as an ingredient in their eternal youth potion.

Or stuff like “uncle, I could use anyone’s spleen in my eternal youth potion, but remember how you used to stick your hands down my underwear and say if I told anyone you’d kill my dog? So do I” is fine.

“I’m gonna stab you multiple times because you were kind of distant when I was little and only Lord Ominous understands me,” or “you got me the wrong barbie at my sixth birthday party, so it’s your fault I destroyed the city,” or “I don’t want to be an accountant like Jake or a dog groomer like Lisa, I want to kill all sentient life and run giggling through the ashes; it’s nothing personal, mom, but I need your spine to power my death ray, and for the last time stop comparing me to my siblings” =not shippable.